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John Byrne

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When I told Chris I intended Kitty to be a “young Sigourney Weaver” he immensely wanted to do ALIEN.
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Shane Matlock
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When I told Chris I intended Kitty to be a “young Sigourney Weaver” he immensely wanted to do ALIEN.

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Enter the Brood.
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Chris did Alien AND Aliens with the X-Men. As a reader, I always had suspicions regarding story inspiration, but to get them confirmed is kinda nutty.

I haven't read the book by Claire North / Catherine Webb, but Hickman has cited the use of reincarnation while retaining memory as only a device within for his 12 part story and not the primary vehicle for the story. How much latitude in a person's definition of plagiarism seems to be deciding factor here. I do like that both authors are being gracious with their reactions and not lighting each other up.
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Matt Hawes
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Even before The Brood, there was that N'gari (sp.?) demon that Kitty fought off alone in the mansion on Christmas Eve.


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Could someone who is reading the Hickman story comment on the differences from John's Donna Troy issues of Wonder Woman? I would like to know, but I can't seem to force myself to read the X-Men stuff now.
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Eric Ladd
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Matt, that is what I considered Alien. The Brood stuff from the Paul Smith run was what I considered Aliens. =)
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Vinny Valenti
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That was the #143 reference I was making. With the Brood, he did ALIENS before James Cameron got to it.
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Michael Roberts
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Beyond all the precedents like REPLAY or GROUNDHOG DAY, Marvel already had a character who lives his life over and over again starting from infancy with Starhawk from Guardians of the Galaxy. So it’s not a novel idea for a Marvel book. 
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Michael Penn
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How did the "Shogun" influence come to be, JB?
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John Byrne

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Chris and I read the book at around the same time.
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Thanks. (The TV miniseries was a marvelous adaptation, wasn't it?)

Wolverine's pre-Ninja subtle background connection to Japan was originally handled quite well, in my opinion. Very lovely scenes with Mariko. 
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Adam Schulman
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I don't know why it took my so long to figure out that Claremont was copying other sources during his X-MEN wrong. Maybe I was just too young to notice.
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