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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:48am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Beautiful and clear composition…

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But apparently not clear enough for Chris!!

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

JB, how would you have scripted that?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 8:52am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Leave out Piotr’s lines entirely, until Angel arrives. Let the art speak for itself.

Tho Chris was never very good at that.

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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 10:15am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

For me i don't mind to have text describing what is shown in the art, it gives a rythm to the story, and i also see it as a traditional part of the medium (but of course not the exclusive way to do it "right").
What i don't like here is that it is obviously wrong and ridiculous.
A silent image and the text (or sound for those who may want a movie analogy, which in the present case and the effect produced on the reader/spectator, seems good enough)... a silent sequence of images where we see Colossus doing his work, and the sudden irruption of the text when Angel appears, is also a great way of doing it. But not necessarily superior for me, simply different, and the procuct of a different artistic voice/sensibility.
In 99% of the cases you and Chris worked wonderfully together (i am speaking of the result) here may be the 1% of the cases where we got an absurdity.



Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 12 August 2019 at 10:16am
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Juan Gomez
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 2:25pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I admit that I've never been a huge fan of engaging in strength level discussions, either way, because comics are rarely consistent about it...but even so, the artwork itself surely doesn't leave any room for arguing in this case.

I understand that the creative process behind a comic book is often going to resemble a back and forth between at least two or more parties, yet Chris Claremont did make a mistake here.

Perhaps you could have Colossus say such a throwaway line about putting in some real effort...if he wasn't already transformed.



Edited by Juan Gomez on 12 August 2019 at 2:25pm
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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 13 August 2019 at 3:53pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Leave out Piotr’s lines entirely, until Angel arrives. Let the art speak for itself.

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Yep.

I'm also offended (still, after all these years!) by Angel wearing yellow boots and gloves. What an eyesore. I'll say it again: Neal Adams' costume for Warren was perfect. So of course the powers that were at Marvel had to f*ck it up. 

And to state the obvious, JB had no say in this, of course. The employee follows the boss's rules even if he hates them...
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