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James Woodcock
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 3:20am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

This post is due to my looking to book tickets to the
Prince of Egypt musical that opens in London this month.

Looking into the musical, which I was really looking
forward to as i really like the film, especially a lot
of its songs, I find that there are only about four
songs from the film and then a whole boatload of new
songs that were written for the stage production.

I have thus, swiftly, lost interest in this production.
I feel I will spend the night thinking 'they could have
used this song here and I would have enjoyed it more'.

I'm sure this has something to do with royalty earnings
coupled with ego, but I just find it annoying.

Interested to hear what others think on this.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 7:59am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Since my first exposure to musicals has usually been the movies--GREASE on Broadway was the one exception--I often find my disappointment runs the other way. I'm unhappy (too strong a word) to find a song I like in the movie is not actually from the stage production.
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John Popa
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 9:17am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

'Prince of Egypt' didn't have that many songs to begin with - have they cut those songs? Last I checked they were still in the stage show. A stage musical with only four or five songs isn't much of a stage musical so it's natural that they want to expand the score for the stage. No idea if they're doing it well, mind you, but I don't think it's ego at all, it's an attempt to make a full storytelling score out of something that otherwise just had some incidental songs.

Edited by John Popa on 03 February 2020 at 9:19am
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There were six or seven songs, but it seems they have kept
only three for the stage musical as far as I can tell.

I'm OK with adding songs, but not if they cut existing
ones as well.
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John Popa
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Songs get cut as musicals are developed, it's the nature of the beast.   Looks like the only major cut is ""Playing With the Big Boys" and "River Lullaby" isn't listed in the program but it's only a minute long so it could still be there (or not.)  

It's the same songwriting/creative team. I don't care what they do if it makes the stage show work the way they want it to.

(And "Grease" is stuck in the position where they usually have to shove the movie songs into the stage show, even though they really make no sense as part of the original script. "Sound of Music" has the same dilemma, as do others, but those are the most noticeable ones.)

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Kevin Brown
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Posted: 05 February 2020 at 7:44am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

There's a small-ish theater near where my wife and I live called Drury Lane.  We often get the season package for their shows (5 productions a year).  One year they had a theme of musicals based on movies, one of which was White Christmas.

I love White Christmas, it's probably one of my top 10 favorite movies.  However, the stage play was a complete mess.  It bored very little resemblance to the movie other than some of the basic plot elements and the characters.  Whole scenes were missing that were in the movie and new scenes were added that did nothing to add to the production.  Most of the songs were in the there, but in a different order.

Musical films to stage musicals doesn't always work unfortunately.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 05 February 2020 at 8:11am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I love White Christmas…

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My preference is for HOLIDAY INN.

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Kevin Brown
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Posted: 05 February 2020 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I love White Christmas…

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My preference is for HOLIDAY INN.

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Contrarian!

Seriously though, I enjoy them both, but I enjoy White Christmas a lot more.

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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 05 February 2020 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I will agree with JB on this. I find HOLIDAY INN to be the better movie. Both have their moments but HOLIDAY INN is just a more enjoyable movie to watch. 
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 05 February 2020 at 7:32pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

The ending of Holiday Inn is so effective -- and so "meta"

My kids commented at length about the weird idea of how exactly they
recreated the Inn for the in-movie-movie -- as if it was a cosmic question: did
they really re-create it or did they use the original set and pretend they re-
created it?
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