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James Woodcock
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The reality is that while IDW produce quality product, it sells terrible.
Not sure how they would improve things.
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 5:56pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Matt H., if you are going to link to one of those toxic manbaby sites, list the domain, so that I know not to click on it and add to their page views. 

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If you hover your cursor over the link, the website address appears. Probably easier than forum members mind reading which sites you find toxically manbaby-esque

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What is this hovering cursor that you speak of? Anyway, you used to be able to hold down a link on iOS to see the address, but now it opens a preview.
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I was going to post earlier, but couldn't due to a
site glitch:

Michael, I honestly don't keep a score card on the
politics of each comic book related website. I
shared a link to an article that was also shared in
a post from a friend on Facebook. It appeared to
be a normal comics news site, and despite Ethan
Sciver's political views, the article was about
what he supposedly knows about DC and AT&T.

I remember a time when posting a link to a comic
book news site wasn't considered some big political
faux pas.
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

 Phillip L Lightfoot wrote:
...Oh, good grief. (eye
roll) I didn't quit comics, comics quit me...


That's similar to something I used to point out to
people about comics selling to kids anymore. People
say kids gave up on comics, but I'd point out that
it was the comic book publishers that gave up on
kids.
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I remember a time when posting a link to a comic  book news site wasn't considered some big political faux pas.

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I remember a time when comic book sites weren’t so openly proud of bemoaning that women and racial minorities and LGBTQs are ruining comics, but that’s the world we live in now. And people are free to voice those opinions, but I don’t want to help them along by adding to their page views. Is that unreasonable?


Edited by Michael Roberts on 22 February 2020 at 7:43pm
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 7:44pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I read that site. That's not what they're about. They don't go after us minorities. They have a bias against the progressive movement within genre entertainment. Please make that distinction in your head. 
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I read that site. That's not what they're about. They don't go after us minorities. They have a bias against the progressive movement within genre entertainment. Please make that distinction in your head.

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When someone complains about affirmative action in schools or the workplace, then casts a sideways glance at me with zero knowledge of my background, are they really complaining about affirmative action?

I mean, we’re talking about the site that tried to suggest that Disney might have been buying up empty seats in theaters for CAPTAIN MARVEL to inflate sales. Is that the hill you want to die on?
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 8:36pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

If we are talking about dying on hills, if it's that important to you personally, how about you copy the link, you paste it in a browser and you police for yourself whether you like the domain or not before you enter it and navigate to the story? As opposed to having a pop at Matt for posting a link to a story that he thought might be of interest?
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

If we are talking about dying on hills, if it's that important to you personally, how about you copy the link, you paste it in a browser and you police for yourself whether you like the domain or not before you enter it and navigate to the story? As opposed to having a pop at Matt for posting a link to a story that he thought might be of interest?

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As I said, the current version of iOS opens a preview when you attempt to do anything with a link. I mean, I thought that Matt would like a head's up that he was linking to the InfoWars of comic news sites But if we are keen on posting links from unreliable sources, I'll just wait until I'm on a computer to click.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 8:21am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

People say kids gave up on comics, but I'd point out that it was the comic book publishers that gave up on kids.

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And that's a barn where the door was closed after the whole thing burned down.

When I was coming into the profession, in the early 70s, the rage was for "relevance", inspired by how much everyone loved Denny and Neal's GREEN LANTERN/GREEN ARROW. "Everyone" meaning professionals and older fans. The experiment was tried because the book was dying--and it still died.

But from then on, "relevance" became the byword--eventually evolving into "grim and gritty" (or as Dave Gobbpns called it, "glum"). Was this what kids wanted? Was this what would draw in the new blood? The young blood?* Since it seemed not even able to hold onto the old blood, no.

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* Resist

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 9:33am | IP Logged | 11 post reply


 QUOTE:
I didn't quit comics, comics quit me.


I quit comics. I missed just about everything great in the
80s, having left very early in the decade. But I didn't
"miss" anything. I had moved on. I knew guys who never
quit, and they seemed quite happy to continue as active
readers, and that's terrific. But it's hard not to suspect
that too many guys should have quit considering what
eventually happened to the industry.
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Rick Senger
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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 10:22am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

What is this hovering cursor that you speak of?
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I use Windows 10 with Firefox and when I move the cursor (pointer controlled by the mouse) directly over the link, the website address automatically appears at the bottom of my window (https://comicbook.com/dc/2020/02/21/dc-comics-co-publisher- dan-didio-exits-company/?fbclid=IwAR3RS2A0B3N0rKFLVYQJTV_RxM m%20UuqHiQFHum6pfms07AAlShyyN_v-VO1A).   No need to click the mouse or open anything. Whatever you're using, I'd be surprised if there isn't an option somewhere in your settings that allows you to do the same.

Edited by Rick Senger on 23 February 2020 at 10:48am
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