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Steven Queen
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Posted: 06 July 2020 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Everything about these pages INSPIRES!

I could read them over and over, all day, every day.
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Jason Ladwig
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Posted: 06 July 2020 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Once again, I find myself going over all the detail, particularly the little nuances with faces, with each new page.

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Agree Matt.
JB, when drawing a team, does your "muscle memory" know each character (out of costume) or do you use references?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 06 July 2020 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Both!!
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Steven Queen
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 5:21am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

 JB wrote:

Probably the "open" hair. When Jean became Dark Phoenix I darkened her hair and, even after the "lobotomy" left it that way as a (hopefully) subtle indicator that the story was not yet over.

Elsewhen is going in some different directions from what would have followed 137 without Shooter's interference, but the light/dark hair will still play an important role as a visual marker.


With a lesser craftsman, this would have been chalked up to inconsistency. I should have know there was a reason behind the difference. That attention to detail and contemplation is what makes this work so special.

That famous Jean-post-lobotomy opening from Phoenix The Untold Story had the "open" hair. Perhaps an indication that her story was over?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 7:24am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

That famous Jean-post-lobotomy opening from Phoenix The Untold Story had the "open" hair.

No, it didn't.

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Steven Queen
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Darn my memory!

Thanks for the correction...and thanks for today's lovely page.
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Michael Genitempo
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 7:47am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

That last panel of Phoenix is just... wow... love the "throw-back" to the original uniform details with the smaller phoenix and the line down the front.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 7:58am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Love that Cyclops and Storm are reminiscent of the late
great Dave Cockrum's rendering from #101. Respect!
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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 8:01am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Some serious time travel on page two. Love it! And especially, as Michael noted, the homage to Mr. Cockrum's work on Uncannny X-Men #101.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 8:02am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

That is a page and a half. That last panel!
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Mario Ribeiro
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 8:28am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

But can the X-Men hear her if she doesn't tell them to do so?
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 07 July 2020 at 8:32am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

"Probably the "open" hair. When Jean became Dark Phoenix I darkened her hair and, even after the "lobotomy" left it that way as a (hopefully) subtle indicator that the story was not yet over."

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Incredible. 40 years later, and I'm only just now noticing this!
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