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Joe Aten
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Posted: 04 January 2021 at 4:52pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Red Ghost and the Super Apes, table for four.


Edited by Joe Aten on 04 January 2021 at 4:55pm
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James Johnson
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Posted: 04 January 2021 at 6:43pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

....devoting a small fragment of his towering intellect to a recent addition to his studies...The contemplation of parallel universes and alternate realities they hold....

Love this nod to WHAT IF and the "recent" addition of the "What If Magneto had founded the X-Men?"

Now for my head to spin even more....  I guess the events of X-MEN 137 (In Marvel Time) would be something that this Watcher would view in an alternate reality. 

With ELSEWHEN, I can now view X-MEN  137 (and all X-MEN stories) as WHAT IF???? tales.  :-)

The more I look at this page, it reminds me of much of my comic reading youth of over 40 years ago. 

Puts a smile on my face.......


Edited by James Johnson on 04 January 2021 at 6:48pm
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John Byrne

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Posted: 04 January 2021 at 6:44pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Red Ghost and his Super Apes seem like the kind of villains who might have graced John's She Hulk for a minute of fun and frivolity (Dr. Bong being one of my favorite examples of this modus operandi) but it seems not to have happened. The loss is ours!

•••

Perhaps it’s the tender age at which I was introduced to them, but I don’t think of them as “funny”.

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James Johnson
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Posted: 04 January 2021 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

JB,

Would love to see a Red Ghost and his Super Apes tale with you at the helm....

Heck, shoehorning them in this ELSEWHEN would wet my appetite. :-)
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Jim Petersman
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Posted: 04 January 2021 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

"Red Ghost and his Super Apes seem like the kind of villains who might have graced John's She Hulk...."
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I feel like they would have been a better fit in Namor or Alpha Flight (or, for company crossover fun, Doom Patrol).
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Rick Senger
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Posted: 04 January 2021 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Perhaps it’s the tender age at which I was introduced to them, but I don’t think of them as “funny”.
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My first exposure was in Iron Man 15 and 16 where he didn't even get top billing over the Unicorn, who felt like a second rate villain to begin with. By then Red Ghost had a long chain and medallion dangling out of his bare chested tunic (very late 60s / early 70s), a rather loud belt and goofy hair. Plus his sidekicks were... apes. But looking at the issue just now, I admit he was more vicious and scary than I'd remembered.
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Robbie Moubert
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Posted: 04 January 2021 at 9:26pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I remember being confused the first time I saw the Red Ghost in a US comic because in the UK reprints his name had been changed to The Mad Ghost.


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Brian Miller
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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 6:59am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

DeFalco and Frenz used them in AS-M. I enjoyed it.
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 7:42am | IP Logged | 9 post reply


 QUOTE:
I feel like they would have been a better fit in Namor...


It would be interesting to see how the Sub-Mariner triumphs over this fearsome foursome. Though he would be outnumbered, Namor's experience battling another formidable quartet has me optimistic about his chances of victory.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 7:57am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Namor versus the Ghost and his Super Apes could produce some interesting dynamics. There is the challenge, of course, of finding a way for Namor to win outright, under the "He's the Hero" rule. Also a challenge to find ways for Kragoff and his apes to give Namor a good fight.

Hmmm.....

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John Byrne

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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 7:58am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Just realized that piece Joe posted at the top of this page is thirty years old.

gleep

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John Byrne

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Posted: 05 January 2021 at 8:00am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Looking at those Tuska images from IRON MAN, I wonder who it was who decided it would be better if the Ghost's hair swept up instead of down.

Not a great look!

(Yes, I know it works for Wolverine, but Wolverine's hair has a lot of other things goin on.)

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