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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 18 June 2021 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

A lot of great ideas!  Here are some of my own (that I think are along the same line as what Marvel did)--

What if Abin Sur's ring went to John Stewart instead of Hal Jordan?
What if Steve Trevor never crashed on (near) Paradise Island?
What if Batman killed?  (He'd be hunted as a criminal, branded a villain, wouldn't be there to help form the JLA, etc.)
What if Superboy married Lana (before Superman met Lois)?
What if someone else got struck by lightning in Barry Allen's lab?


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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 19 June 2021 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

"What if Bruce Wayne became Green Lantern?"

Check out Mike W. Barr and Jerry Bingham's BATMAN: IN
DARKEST KNIGHT.
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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 19 June 2021 at 2:27pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

What if Green Lantern Tomar Re had succeeded in saving
Krypton?

What if the Guardians of the Universe raised Kal-El?

What if Dick Grayson quit being Robin but never became
Nightwing?
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 19 June 2021 at 5:24pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

What if Green Lantern Tomar Re had succeeded in saving
Krypton

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What? Did the Green Lanterns try to save Krypton?
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Joseph Gauthier
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Posted: 19 June 2021 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

What If baby Kal'El crashed down in Metropolis instead of Smallville?

Hint: Reporter Perry White is the first on scene and is able to smuggle away the baby before the authorities arrive, but has to leave behind the ship.
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Steven Brake
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Posted: 20 June 2021 at 5:11am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

@Eric Smearman:

Thanks Eric! I'll try to get hold of this!
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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 20 June 2021 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

"What? Did the Green Lanterns try to save Krypton?"

In SUPERMAN Vol 1 #257, there's a "Fabulous World of
Krypton" back-up story by Elliot S. Maggin, Dick Dillin and
Dick Giordano called "The Greatest Green Lantern of All"
that tells the tale of Tomar Re's one and only failed
mission.
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Mitch Denoyer
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Posted: 21 June 2021 at 8:36am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

What If Kal El were black?
What if Superman permanently lost his powers?
What if Superman had put a swift end to WWII?
What is Bruce Wayne had lost his money?

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Daniel Gillotte
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Posted: 21 June 2021 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

A poor Batman is pretty intriguing.
I like Perry White raising Superman- and because he wants to protect him he keeps getting scooped on the Alien rocket ship story by other media.

Is there anything interesting in swapping sidekicks?
Roy Harper to Bruce Wayne? Dick Grayson to Oliver Queen?


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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 21 June 2021 at 10:03am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Mitch D. - All but one of your ideas has been produced.

World's Finest #178 - Superman loses his powers and recreates himself as Nova. Also, any number of Kandor stories. I like the Nightwing and Flamebird stories best.

"How Superman Would End the War" - by Jerry Seigel and Joe Shuster - Look Magazine, Feb 27 1940 and reprinted under several covers, e.g., "The Greatest Superman Stories Ever Told."

Batman Annual #10 - "Down to the Bone" - Through the machinations of Professor Hugo Strange, Wayne Enterprises stockholders are intimidated to sell out, and Bruce loses control of W.E. He also loses stewardship of Jason Todd, and Wayne Manor is taken as collateral for all of Bruce's debts. The Batmobile has a tire stolen, and the Joker escapes. (Okay, maybe not that last one... :)

Kal-El wasn't black, but a slight twist - having Jor-El, Lara, or both from Vathlo Island on Krypton would have had him black (Vathlo Island being home to a race of scientifically advanced blacks - rather a suitable home for Jor-El, honestly.)

Superman wasn't black, but in Superman's Girl Friend Lois Lane #86, we find "I Am Curious (Black)!", named after a 70s film, "I Am Curious (Yellow)". To get a cultural story in Metropolis' Little Africa, Lois uses a device to make her black for a period of time. Bad taste? Pushy story? Well, this was DC was making its big changes, so it wsa a reasonable chance that the story wouldn't be rejected by the readers.

Switching sidekicks - sure! Let's go extreme! Barbara Gordon to Diana Prince to become an amazon. Dick Grayson to Superman, with a flight ring and Flamebird outfit. And Wally West to Bruce Wayne... Dark Lightning strikes!
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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 21 June 2021 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

There are two Black Supermen:

President Calvin Ellis of Earth-23.

Val Zod of Earth-2 (the post-Nrw 52 one).
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 23 June 2021 at 8:27am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Of course, just like at Marvel, some of the best What If? ideas were actually done!  And just like at Marvel, I think most of them would have been better off staying in the What If? category.  Off the top of my head--

What if Wally West took over being the Flash?
What if Dick Grayson took over being the Batman?
What if the inhabitants of Kandor were enlarged?
What if Superman and Lois Lane got married?
What if they had a super son?
What if Batman and Talia had a child?
What if John Stewart or Guy Gardner became Green Lantern?
What if ________ died?  (Insert just about anybody's name.)
What if Earth 1 and Earth 2 merged?
What if Shazam/Captain Marvel and Superman were on the same Earth?

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