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Joseph Gauthier Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 September 2021 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | 1
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When I first "met" Nightcrawler, I was twelve-years-old and didn't know much about the German language, and, therefore, pronounced Wagner as Wayg-ner. Of course, as an adult, I've long been aware that a native German speaker would certainly pronounce Wagner as Vahg-ner, but in the very specific case of Nightcrawler, it only recently occurred to me that my long ago formed habit of saying Kurt Wayg-ner is more than likely incorrect!
So my question, for the rest of you, is how do you pronounce Kurt's Wagner?
(edited for subject -- Tim)
Edited by Tim O Neill on 22 September 2021 at 8:42am
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 September 2021 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | 2
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Like the composer. I probably heard the name somewhere, so I knew how to pronounce Kurt.
The one that trips me up is Illyana Rasputina. As a kid, I read it as Ill-yana, when it should probably be Il-ly-ana.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 20 September 2021 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | 3
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Vahg-ner. You’re velcome.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 September 2021 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | 4
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Like the composer then; I'm sure that would be where Len Wein or Dave Cockrum would've gotten the name for a German character. If Wein had kept writing the series I wonder if Nightcrawler might have been tied in a bit with allusions to Der Nibelungen, Golem and the ring or somesuch?
In Jeopardy half the answers to the opera questions are going to involve Wagner, kind of like how in architecture they are so often Lloyd-Wright.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 21 September 2021 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 5
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Now, is it pronounced Ha-wa-ee or Ha-vah-ee?
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Steven Brake Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 21 September 2021 at 1:28pm | IP Logged | 6
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Is it "row" as in "bow", or "row" as in "bow"?
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Jim Muir Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 September 2021 at 2:33am | IP Logged | 7
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I read it as Wagg-ner, like Robert (Hart to Hart) Wagner. I'm more intrigued, Joseph, as to how you arrived at Wayg-ner!
The pronunciation which still baffles me to this day is Charles Xavier. I did, and still do, use Zay-vier (like Like Xander or Xylophone). Outside of the X-men cartoons and movies I've never heard the name pronounced with a hard 'X'
Still, what do I know... I used to see JB's name as John Brine. Sorry!
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 September 2021 at 4:00am | IP Logged | 8
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Vahg-Nar
X-avier
For me, that was how I have pronounced them since I met them
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Joseph Gauthier Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 September 2021 at 5:23am | IP Logged | 9
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I'm more intrigued, Joseph, as to how you
arrived at Wayg-ner!
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I grew up in the suburbs around Milwaukee, WI, which is an extremely German part of the country and I went to school with a number of Wagners, who, despite coming from several different families, all pronounced the name with the Americanized Wayg-ner. So I guess it was natural that twelve-year-old me would have pronounced Nightcrawler's name the same way, but the part that blows my mind, is that I continued pronouncing it that way without question despite the fact that I've known that a native German would pronounce it otherwise for the past 30+ years!
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Robert Walter Auberger Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 September 2021 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | 10
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or as we german speaking folks would say: " exactly how you write it!":-)
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 September 2021 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | 11
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First time I met the character, I read Wagner like Robert Wagner. Wasn't long before a friend of my brother's suggested it should be pronounced like the composer and that's the way I've read it ever since.
But do you pronounce Kurt like skirt or the more germanic oort (if you can follow what I mean)?
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Craig Earl Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 September 2021 at 4:18am | IP Logged | 12
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Interesting that Len Wein is mentioned in this topic about pronunciation - as I had always read his name as 'Ween' rather than 'Wine' until about five years ago...
Edited by Craig Earl on 26 September 2021 at 6:03am
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