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Michael Connell
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Stan always claims that he has a terrible memory. (of course I think he's just trying to be modest.)
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Cully Hamner
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You've got those bits of info in the wrong order -- ie, not the order in which they were revealed.
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the first issue, Xavier tells Jean he was "born of parents who worked
on the first atomic bomb project". That was in the mid-1940s, as Stan
would have known, making Charlies 20-something in 1963.
Later,
this was forgotten when we were shown his experiences in the Korean
War. Basically, everything after the first issue is jammed with retcons
--- tho I like to think Stan still had in mind that Xavier was only a
couple of years older than his students, when he tossed in that scene
with Xavier pining for Jean!
*****
I guess you cold chalk it up to the settling that happens after the
"pilot episode," kind of like how the President was supposed to be a
minor character on the Rob Lowe starring vehicle, The West Wing. But
by the time I got old enough to be interested in reading the series
(when you were doing it, incidentally), I naturally took the character
to be notably older than the rest of the cast. That's how it played to me.
Edited by Cully Hamner on 17 February 2006 at 7:58am
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Andrew W. Farago
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Reading this thread lets me know that M******
sucks.
I will never buy another XMen comic.
Third brother? What's next...a sister? Magneto was
really the biological father of all the kids in the
Summers family? Sheeeeeesh.
All the stuff Marvel's done to the X-Men over the
years, and someone finally revealing the third
Summers brother whose existence has been hinted
at for about 10 years (or more) is the last straw?
This is something that they were going to get around
to doing eventually anyway, so I wouldn't have
guessed that anyone would make a big fuss over it.
I'm enjoying the Deadly Genesis mini-series, for the
most part. I liked Brubaker's Catwoman, I've been
enjoying his Captain America, his Daredevil's off to a
good start, and I'm looking forward to his run as the
regular writer on whichever X-Men book he's getting.
Yeah, the "long lost relative" thing rarely plays out
well, but I'm definitely in for the last two issues to see
how Brubaker resolves it .
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Rob Hewitt
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on whichever X-Men book he's getting.
*****
Uncanny X-men
I'm definitely in for the last two issues to see
how Brubaker resolves it .
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3rd Summers will continue to be addressed in Uncanny.
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Gregg Allinson
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In the first issue, Xavier tells Jean he was "born of parents who worked on the first atomic bomb project". That was in the mid-1940s, as Stan would have known, making Charlies 20-something in 1963.
Never conciously thought of of it that way, but my god, you're right. Still, I feel like Kirby was depicting somebody older...maybe there was a minor communications breakdown?
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Bill Dowling
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I thought the 3rd Summers brother was one of the guys from the Police? I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere. Andy?
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John Byrne
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I feel like Kirby was depicting somebody older...maybe there was a minor communications breakdown?**** Stan often wrote against what Kirby drew. As I have pointed out on many an occasion, it was often from just that that the magic that was Marvel sprang. However, in this case, whether Kirby, or Stan, or both intended Xavier to be only a couple of years older than his students, we shall never know. Stan has no memory for this stuff, and the art tells us nothing. After all, Kirby "teenagers" were a unique creation, with little to do with what real teens of the time looked like.
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Rob Hewitt
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Yeah,he would often depict teens or college kids in jacket and ties-sometimes bow ties when they went out for a date or to school.
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John Byrne
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I guess you cold chalk it up to the settling that happens after the "pilot episode," kind of like how the President was supposed to be a minor character on the Rob Lowe starring vehicle, The West Wing. But by the time I got old enough to be interested in reading the series (when you were doing it, incidentally), I naturally took the character to be notably older than the rest of the cast. That's how it played to me.**** And by that time, he was. I mentioned the idea of him being much younger than he appeared, but there was too much backstory indicating otherwise. The retcon -- like Superboy -- had become the "real" story.
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Glenn Greenberg
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Ed Brubaker's on UNCANNY now?
Wow, so they knocked Chris off that book for a THIRD time, huh?
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Rob Hewitt
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I think in July
NRAMA: The flipside of that is Chris Claremont apparently now not being attached to a “core” title, which some of his more loyal fans are taking very hard. Comments on what could be consider the second end of an era?
JQ: Chris has done a remarkable job on X-Men over the years and what he’s created will live long after all of us our gone.
Chris will still be involved with X-verse so you haven’t seen the last of him but we felt that now was a good time to make a change on the core books. Anyone who is in the publishing game is aware of this, it’s part of the business, but it in no way diminishes what Chris has done or created over the years or the undying respect we have for him. It’s just a change that we felt needed to be made in order for us to take the books in a different direction.
http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JoeFridays34.html
Edited by Rob Hewitt on 17 February 2006 at 2:49pm
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Dave Phelps
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Yep. Brubaker's coming on board with #475.
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