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Greg Woronchak
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I think it adds to my enjoyment of someone's art where I'm invited to 'fill in the blanks', rather than see every single detail drawn. Artwork with too many lines tends to overload my brain <g>.
Less is certainly more, as they say.
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Gerry Turnbull
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ive tried a couple of times over the years to get a commission or even a sketch from Art, it is not easy !
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John Byrne
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I'm more than content to let Art do things the way Art wants to do things.
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I would be, too, if Arthur's dismal production rate was really based on him
"doing things the way he does things". Unfortunately, he's not "growing
roses". It's his time not working that accounts for the small output, not
the time invested in each piece.
(As I have often wondered -- these guys who put so much work into single
images, panels, pages ---- does this in no small way account for why their
production is often so small? Imagine your own jobs. And imagine that
what you began on Monday would still be waiting for you, unfinished, on
Friday. How much would you feel like going back to it the next Monday?)
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Gerry Turnbull
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he did a nice version of Everyone versus Galactus
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Greg Woronchak
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How much would you feel like going back to it the next Monday?
It was stressed to me by my commercial arts teachers that in order to survive as a freelance artist, one had to be good and fast. To that end, they explained that one has to know when to 'let go' of a particular drawing, and move on to the next artistic challenge.
I noticed many fellow students continually rework a piece because they wanted it to be 'perfect'; the output of these guys tended to be quite small.
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Vladimir Fiks
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There also is a point when putting too much work into the piece starts
working to the detriment of the art. Too many meaningless lines wash out
and flatten the art making it hard for the eye to focus on the important
elements. The piece above contains an incredible amount of work, but
Alex Toth could have captured the same scene with a minimal line use.
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John Byrne
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Toth is a perfect example. As I have mentioned before, I have a CHARLTON
BULLSEYE cover he did, in which foreground figures have their faces
silhouetted, yet close examination of the art shows he inked fully rendered
faces and then decided to black over them. Less is more.
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thats the thing tho,if everyone drew using the same approach, everything would look the same !
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Steven Huie
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Yes but Alex Toth is Alex Toth. John Byrne is John Byrne. Arthur Adams is
definitely Arthur Adams. I would love more output from him, but you
know what? I'd rather have some Arthur Adams than no Arthur Adams.
Arthur Adams has already established his own 'line'. He can do whatever
he wants. Alot of people in this thread are getting down on him because
he takes a long time to get work done. He's lazy. He's slow. But I'm sure
he can still eat and pay his bills. His stuff is well drawn and super detailed,
his compositions are well thought out, the angles are fun. Yes, he could
have captured the same scene with minimal line use, but that's not what
Arthur Adams would do. I think he would go out of his way to make it as
difficult and detailed as possible. I think that's part of his 'charm'.
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John Byrne
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…if everyone drew using the same approach, everything would look the
same !
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Really? Does Alex Toth look like Jack Kirby? Does Kirby look like Kubert?
Does Kubert look like Garcia Lopez? I could go on.
These are guys who knew/know when to stop. And one of the reasons
they are titans is exactly that.
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John Byrne
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Yes, he could have captured the same scene with minimal line use…
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Not talking about minimal line use. Talking about excessive line
use. About crossing the, well, line into that point where the work ceases to
actually serve the drawing.
No one would cite this…
…as an example of "minimal" line use -- but would the drawing have been
better served by making it a daytime shot? Rendering every nook and
cranny of the buildings in the background?
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Steven Huie
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Has Arthur Adams ever inked JB?
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