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Marcio Ferreira
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Oh I like that a lot. Much better the second time around. (2)
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Brian Peck
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | 2
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Here is the first appearance of Logan without the mask from X-Men #98 by
Dave. I own the original page and the original panel had been cut out and
this one taped in.
Edited by Brian Peck on 03 April 2012 at 1:05pm
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Stephen Robinson
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Wonder if Wolverine having an "interesting" face and even a "cool" name led to our seeing more of him unmasked and more people simply calling him "Logan."
Wolverine is also depicted as being the same character in uniform and without. I like the Bruce Wayne is not Batman. Clark Kent is not Superman. A "transformation" of sorts occurs when they change into their costumes. If Wolverine looked sort of average without his mask and his name was "Lionel" or something, maybe it wouldn't have been as cool to have him out of costume.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 1:44pm | IP Logged | 4
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Here is the first appearance of Logan without the mask from X-Men #98 by Dave. I own the original page…•• Ha! I used to own that page! Gonna guess you paid more for it than I did. Technically, tho, the first shot of Wolverine without his mask is on the previous page, the splash.
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Neil Brauer
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 1:51pm | IP Logged | 5
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That widow's peak is a little out of control.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 2:04pm | IP Logged | 6
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Love the new sketch. Hey, your new stuff's better!
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Wallace Sellars
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 2:13pm | IP Logged | 7
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...I can see a hint of Orion.
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I was going to say that very thing!
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 2:24pm | IP Logged | 8
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Wow!
His new stuff is WAY BETTER than his old stuff!
I love the way you draw now JB -yes I loved it before, but now is GREAT-!
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Armindo Macieira
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I heard that originally Wolverine was to be some kind of mutated wolverine(?), maybe the 'weird' hair had something to do with that...
JB's version looks more human and I like it better (although Cockrum's version grew on me)...
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Andrew Davey
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Wow...an interesting and intriquing "what if" view of Wolverine. I like it,.. it conveys a lot of depth and mystery the character once had. Also I was never a fan of pointy hair but I quess that had a more animalistic quality to it. I am so used to the other face my brain is trying to imagine the new face with the mask on to see if they are really the same person/image when in costume.
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Andrew Davey
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 2:58pm | IP Logged | 11
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Oh.... and thanks for sharing the updated Wolverine face 2012 sketch,... really a nice treat. You spoil us.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 03 April 2012 at 2:59pm | IP Logged | 12
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I heard that originally Wolverine was to be some kind of mutated wolverine(?), maybe the 'weird' hair had something to do with that...•• Not "originally". That was something Chris and Dave came up with later, but they didn't do it before Archie Goodwin (without knowing of their plans) used the same gag for Spider-Woman's origin. (It was the High Evolutionary at work.) Dave's Wolverine design tho, as noted, was a more "savage" version of what he'd been drawing for Timberwolf in the Legion. I was not aware of the more "recent" Legion characters at the time, but looking back I am surprised Marvel let him do a design that was so close. (I do wonder if I was somehow "subliminally" aware of Timberwolf. My own redesign for Wolverine's costume is not altogether unlike the one Timberwolf wore.)
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