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Tim O Neill
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Steve De Young
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Comics sales do stack up pretty well against other magazines, however. Periodical sales are in the toilet, and comics have, though obviously losing a lot of sales, held on to more readers than any other type of periodical. For example:
Good Housekeeping Current: 410,981
Good Housekeeping 1980: 5.5 million
Reader's Digest Current: 8.16 million
Reader's Digest 1962: 40 million
National Geographic Current: 4.71 million
National Geographic 1980: 32 million
TV Guide Current: 2.1 million
TV Guide 1980: 20 million
Those are just some samples. So even though comic sales are way down when we compare them to just comic magazines, they've actually done a better job of maintaining their audience, on average, than any other category of magazine in the U.S.
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John Byrne
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So even though comic sales are way down when we compare them to just comic magazines, they've actually done a better job of maintaining their audience, on average, than any other category of magazine in the U.S. •• Forgive my French, but that is utter bullshit. "Maintaining sales" means keeping them at the same level, not holding onto a slightly higher number than other publications. You're saying three people have fallen off a cliff, and the one who fell last is in better shape because he'll die after the other two.
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Steve De Young
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You're saying three people have fallen off a cliff, and the one who fell last is in better shape because he'll die after the other two.
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What I meant was more like that at Time Warner, their DC Comics subsidiary is somewhat healthier than their Time Magazine subsidiary. It may be the difference between coughing up blood and dead, but there's still a difference.
And that difference is relevant when we talk about how to save the comic industry. For example, people often say that it would help save the comics industry to get comics on magazine racks in 7-11's and book stores again, but since the rest of the contents of those magazine racks are dying even faster than comics, I don't know that that's a viable solution.
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William T. Byrd
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In April 2014, the top 300 titles combined for over 6.98 million copies sold, and the top 120 trades sold a 1000 copies or more each. Maybe the industry is a bit healthier than what it seems.
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John Byrne
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In April 2014, the top 300 titles combined for over 6.98 million copies sold...••• That averages out to around 23,000 per title. That's less than 1/10th of what I was doing on the FF in the Eighties. Close to 1/20th of what X-MEN was doing at the same time. And, of course, less than one quarter of what used to be cancelation level.
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John Byrne
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Kitty Pryde was still new to the X-Men, and having an older Kate Pryde walk around an apocalyptic New York City without any explanation was mind blowing. A perfect kick off to an iconic story••• Terry inked some of the cleanest garbage in comics!
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Joe Zhang
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If an industry is not growing, then it's dying.
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Jarrod Buttery
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Dear Mr Byrne (or fellow members),
I apologise if this has been answered before but may I ask of the cover for Uncanny X-Men #141, whose mug shot is on the poster in the bottom left hand corner (between Wolverine's legs)?
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John Byrne
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…may I ask of the cover for Uncanny X-Men #141, whose mug shot is on the poster in the bottom left hand corner (between Wolverine's legs)?•• I did not have any particular character in mind.
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Jeffrey Rice
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I remember that "Kate" was immediately recognizable as Kitty grown up, despite being a relatively new character.
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Brad Hague
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That splash page is so perfect. I love the creativity and detail of the Byrne pencils; the cleanliness and strength of Austin's inks, and the singularity of Orzechowski's lettering. My all-time favorite combination in comics history (for me).
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