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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 24 October 2018 at 8:03pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

With the rhetoric that comes out of rallies and certain media outlets and online sites, it was only a matter of time. Depressing how easily it is to control and influence the masses. 
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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 24 October 2018 at 8:06pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

"Many prominent conservative commentators accused unnamed liberal agitators of sending the devices to smear Republicans before the midterms"

Sigh. 
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 24 October 2018 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Trump needs to quit calling the Dems (and the press) the "enemy of the people" and the the reason why asylum seekers are walking to the border.

He knows those are lies and he knows it gets his "base" riled up with hate.... his supporters chanted "lock her up" at a rally just hours after these bomb threats toward Clinton! *sigh*

-C!

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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 24 October 2018 at 8:29pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Trump will keep on doing what he does best and his base will respond like this...

"This is the democrats October Surprise. THEY are behind these packages to try to change the outcome of the election. SHAMEFUL domestic terrorists!"

"This whole thing screams False Flag.  If the bomber(s) really wanted to kill someone they would have been successful.  Instead, you have these "mailed" packages sent to the senior dissidents in the Democratic Party using pipe bombs.  Someone or a group wanted to cause a distraction and maybe even get sympathy votes. With all the security and screening of mail (since 9/11) the only real way to bomb these Democrat leaders would be to use a quadcopter or radio controlled AC.  This method was attempted (unsuccessfully in Venezuela against the president of Venezuela this year and has been successfully used by "insurgents" and ISIS members in Syria and Iraq. Amateurs!  

PS: Democrats, if you're looking for sympathy, you can find it in the dictionary between "social" and "system", but not here."

From FoxNews comment section. How do you fight such "logic"?
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Thomas Woods
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Posted: 24 October 2018 at 9:55pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I agree that the hate from both sides needs to subside,
but I am willing to bet this is some sort of frame up.
All this crap happening just before the mid terms?

A Trump supporter doing this, even a total nut job, has
to know it would only hurt us, not help us. I would bet
it is some foreign power or leftist doing it before
that. Either way they need to be found.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 24 October 2018 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

deleted as it was an emotional response

Edited by James Woodcock on 24 October 2018 at 11:29pm
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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 25 October 2018 at 12:18am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

James, I agree with whatever you deleted.
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 25 October 2018 at 12:43am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

People say bad things about Trump all the time, every time. And he deserves it. But if someone makes an attempt on his life, would it be the fault of Trump's critics? Of course not, unless those critics called for such violence. I'm not aware of Trump calling for the bombings of his political rivals. 
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Greg McPhee
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Posted: 25 October 2018 at 12:55am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I agree that the hate from both sides needs to subside, 
but I am willing to bet this is some sort of frame up. 
All this crap happening just before the mid terms? 

A Trump supporter doing this, even a total nut job, has 
to know it would only hurt us, not help us. I would bet 
it is some foreign power or leftist doing it before 
that. Either way they need to be found.

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Sorry, but, a "total nut job" would not know this is wrong or hurting the party. They would clearly think they are doing the GOP and Trump a favour.

A frame up? A foreign power? A leftist?

Can it not be accepted that the vitriol and hate and labelling Trump projects for either effect or belief will spur certain people in his group to do these things. Be it bombs or just abusing immigrants, homosexuals or anyone they just don't feel fits with their world view.


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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 25 October 2018 at 2:16am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Frame up? Was driving a car into a crowd of peaceful protestors a frame up? Can everything be conspiratorial or can one group of people just accept that there are "total nut jobs" within their ranks, spurned to action by idiotic leadership. I think it is funny that a total nut job is supposedly still rational enough to understand consequences.
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Thomas Woods
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Posted: 25 October 2018 at 10:20am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

If it is a right wing nut job I was trying to figure out
what triggered him during the mid terms. Maybe the
migrant caravan took him over the edge.

We all know about the October surprise crap, these
things are planned more often than not.

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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 25 October 2018 at 10:32am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

And the biggest issue right now, in my eyes, is the clear and present danger to the United States of America. America isn't a "gimme"; it's not free, it's not easy, and its existence cannot be pre-assumed. This country could be lost. Such a loss would cause an international crisis and collapse, but America requires WORK to maintain.

There are forces that seem dedicated to this; that appear to feel that their America will always be here, that they will always live in the country that they know, and that they have to work towards that end, no matter how wrong it is. Those in government who should be leading the people appear to be heading down another path. They are encouraging decisiveness, anger, fear, hatred, and support such activities.

And as usual, right at the top of that pyramid of deplorability is our pres. He thinks his throne is there waiting for him once he takes over the country for the rest of his life, without realizing that the apex of that pyramid is not a comfortable stable platform, but an unstable single point that will not long balance and support any such style of rulership.

If somehow our democracy does start crumbling; if neighbor turns against neighbor; if our civil infrastructure starts collapsing into a dicatorship; if everything goes to hell, who do YOU think is going to be first against the wall? Our directed march towards anarchy and chaos have no good outcome; but the self-certain idiots think they'll just take over, cleanly and easily.

I smell bad bread and I hear violent circuses in the distance. And it's not that far way.
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