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Steven McCauley
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I'm sure there were quite a few text boxes about the claws being extended from Wolverine's bionic housings -- which the bone claws mutation flat contradict.
In my head canon, prior to Origins coming out, I theorized that Wolverine's healing power "filled in" the hollow adamantium claws with bone.
Now I just don't care.
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Vinny Valenti
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I thought that the bone claws were a cool idea when I saw them because I immediately assumed that they'd be useless for practical purposes since they'd break every time he tries to cut anything harder than flesh (though I guess for Wolverine that IS a practical use....). I figured it'd be a cruel twist of irony that he'd have claws that he couldn't really use.
But no, they had him cutting up cars, metal doors, etc, which should have been impossible. That just made the bone claws a visual change and nothing more.
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Greg Woronchak
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I prefer curved ice-picks over swords lol.
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Ronald Joseph
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I'm not a fan of the bone claws at all (for all the reasons mentioned here and elsewhere), but I did get a kick out of this scene from an old issue of Ka-Zar...  "Well... yeah."
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John Byrne
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I prefer curved ice-picks over swords lol.•• Not ice picks. As I've noted before, drawn as they were originally, the claws have the cross section of a D, flat side on the bottom.
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Greg Kirkman
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I remember when the bone claws were introduced, after Magneto ripped all the metal out of Wolverine's body. At the time, the popular theory was that Wolverine's healing factor had compensated for the lost metal claws by growing bone replacements.
Even that would have made more sense than the eventual reveal that he'd had the bone claws since he was a kid!
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John Byrne
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In my head canon, prior to Origins coming out, I theorized that Wolverine's healing power "filled in" the hollow adamantium claws with bone.•• If we grant someone a "healing factor", what it should do is heal. In other words, sticking to the internal logic, it should not be able to "grow" or "fill" what was not there before. (It should not be able to "heal" him instantly from disintegration, either, but let's preserve what little remains of our sanity and stay clear of the movies.)
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John Byrne
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"Well...yeah." •• I have no idea of the context of those panels.
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Ronald Joseph
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I have no idea of the context of those panels.
Ah. This was the first fight Wolverine and Hulk had after the bone claw reveal. Logan went to cut him and nothing happened.
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Ronald Joseph
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If we grant someone a "healing factor", what it should do is heal. In other words, sticking to the internal logic, it should not be able to "grow" or "fill" what was not there before. (It should not be able to "heal" him instantly from disintegration, either, but let's preserve what little remains of our sanity and stay clear of the movies.) The parameters of Logan's healing factor were stretched beyond ridiculous limits when it was revealed at one point that it "deleted" painful memories to protect him and that's why he couldn't remember his past.
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John Byrne
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Ah, and so I recall Shooter making Chris rewrite a machine gun wound to the gut as merely a graze, because healing from the former was "unrealistic".
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Josh Goldberg
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"I think I'm one of the few who lost interest in Wolverine the more I learned about him..." **** A mystery man without the mystery kind of misses the point.
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"The parameters of Logan's healing factor were stretched beyond ridiculous limits when it was revealed at one point that it 'deleted' painful memories to protect him..." **** That's a superpower I wouldn't mind having.
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"I recall Shooter making Chris rewrite a machine gun wound to the gut as merely a graze.." **** Those panels are my favorite example of the words contradicting the pictures.
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