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Brian O'Neill Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 13 November 2013 Location: United States Posts: 1964
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Posted: 16 February 2018 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | 1
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Bill Collins:Banned since the 1930`s? Does that mean that breakfast cereals in the U.S. didn`t have `free gifts` inside the packets like we did in the U.K.? Usually a small plastic toy! We certainly had them in the 60`s and 70`s, not sure about the 80`s. *********************** No, the US has had toys in cereal boxes for years...with both cereal and toys wrapped separately in plastic. But Kinder Eggs are putting a toy literally inside a piece of chocolate. It's not like ceeal is in big enough pieces that a Matchbox car could be inserted into it.;-)
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4635
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Posted: 16 February 2018 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | 2
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I'm fairly sure cereal toys were banned in Canada as inducements to foist poor quality sugar stuffs as food upon children. Other places seem to be preferring to tax sugar stuffs lately. I've never had a problem myself I guess as my money all went to more comics while other kids were loading up with twizzlers and soda pop.
I think Brian and some others are communicating thoughtfully, though upset of course, but others are just falling into the same groove on the skipping record. My self interest is to have fewer high powered weapons around our shared continent. I'd love to see it, but al the amnesty buy-back programs in the world are going to take a long long time to make much of a dent in what I know is out there.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Location: England Posts: 11308
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Posted: 16 February 2018 at 3:33pm | IP Logged | 3
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In the UK the chocolate surrounds a plastic egg, the toy is inside the egg,our cereals had the toy actually inside the packet WITH the cereals.
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Brian O'Neill Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 13 November 2013 Location: United States Posts: 1964
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Posted: 16 February 2018 at 5:37pm | IP Logged | 4
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Ours, too...just put the toy in plastic to keep the crumbs off.;-)And we do have 'plastic on the outside' toy eggs with the chocolate egg inside...but I think kids want a chocolat egg so they can eat the cholcolate, and then go play with a 'real' toy,
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Byron Graham Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 935
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Posted: 16 February 2018 at 6:12pm | IP Logged | 5
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And so they'll put up metal detectors at the school to keep guns out. They'll put up a fence to keep out unwanted visitors. They'll arm the teachers. School are starting to look a lot like prisons. They're going to put the kids in "jail" for America's right to bear arms.
Edited by Byron Graham on 16 February 2018 at 6:16pm
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Byron Graham Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 935
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Posted: 16 February 2018 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | 6
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Over on Reddit, one of the students involved in the shooting is doing an Ask Me Anything thread. When asked if he had one wish on how the politicians would react, he responds:
"To stop letting the NRA control how our government handles gun laws. My friend who is a senior told me he learned in AP Gov class that the NRA is the main reason for some elected officials even being in office, and that was crazy to me."
Seventeen year old kid there.
As I'm reading the thread, it occurs to me that maybe his generation will finally do something about guns.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Location: England Posts: 11308
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 1:36am | IP Logged | 7
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`They're going to put the kids in "jail" for America's right to bear arms`
I often see on American tv shows, houses with wrought iron window grills and wrought iron grills on the outside of exterior doors, and i think `Land of the free, living in their own private little prisons`
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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 133460
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 7:55am | IP Logged | 8
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In the "Wild West" sheriffs and town marshalls often posted regulations that forbade guns within town limits. This did not bring about the downfall of American culture in those supposedly more "savage" times. When did we lose that bit of common sense?
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Bob Simko Byrne Robotics Security
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Joined: 16 April 2004 Posts: 5982
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 8:27am | IP Logged | 9
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When the Supreme Court essentially struck that down...it was a big issue in Chicago and the results have been tragic.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 9:06am | IP Logged | 10
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I was thinking on a broader, more encompssing terms. Crazy to consider the vicious cycle that gets us here. We need guns to protect ourselves from guns.... I wonder how the "protection" measures against the murdered children? Meanwhile, Rump's solution to this gangrene is to give everybody nose gays.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4635
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | 11
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It seems to me where things stand just now we have trench lines at "If the FBI performed flawlessly we could have AR-15s, huge ammo clips, whatever available to any adult that wants them" vs. "Let's not have those things around, almost everyone believes they are a responsible owner but things aren't going to work out perfectly."
I watched some of these teens in Florida speaking and am seriously impressed. So that seems hopeful.
This is midgaard, middle earth, to me that means everything is half effed up. I've never felt I should have a gun around other than a rifle in the home when I was in rural Alaska where there were cougars, wolves and moose around (but no grizzlies known on the island I was on). I have wanted a decent knife while spending significant time in inner city Seattle, San Francisco and Vancouver though. Maybe even that's psychological and delusional on my part though.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Location: England Posts: 11308
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 2:15pm | IP Logged | 12
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Who needs semi-automatic or military grade assault rifles in civilian life? Nobody!
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