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Richard Palmgren
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| Posted: 19 November 2018 at 11:00am | IP Logged | 1
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Thanks for the answer!
I didn't mean to imply you were trying for the exact likeness, but rather using the "models" as a rough starting point: Jean is only Jean, no matter who she started as
(which is kinda a very meta statement about Jean)
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Richard Stevens
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| Posted: 19 November 2018 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | 2
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I like the streamlined Nightcrawler a LOT.
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Dale E Ingram
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| Posted: 20 November 2018 at 9:17am | IP Logged | 3
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Looking at that Nightcrawler image a few pages back, I was reminded what a cool, weird character design Dave's original design was.Flattening out his shoulder flares streamlines him while still staying true to the design.
I've always appreciated your faithfulness to Dave's designs while remaining completely your own artist. Your Kurt is leaner, with a different posture that makes perfect sense for a guy shaped like him. He's always crouching, never standing straight up. Dave did the same thing but in a different way. I can look at a Byrne Nightcrawler and a Cockrum Nightcrawler and although they're very different, I still see the same guy.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 20 November 2018 at 10:49am | IP Logged | 4
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I can look at a Byrne Nightcrawler and a Cockrum Nightcrawler and although they're very different, I still see the same guy.•• Thanks! This is something that has increasingly become a source of great annoyance for me: artist who take a "This is how I draw!" attitude to existing characters, instead of working to make it seem everyone is looking at the same live model. Being On Model, of course, has very much become a thng of the past. Hardly anyone rides herd on rock-star artists and writers.
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Paul Wills
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I'm wondering what got the ball rolling on this awesome project - was it just the fact of drawing the wolverine/sauron page on a whim?
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Nathan Greno
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I knew Wolverine wasn't allowed to smoke these days -- but I guess he's also no longer allowed to drink?
Marvel just restarted 'Uncanny X-Men' -- the first issue featured a "Hidden Gem" wraparound variant cover featuring Cockrum art... sans Wolverine's beer.
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Nathan Greno
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John Byrne
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Here's a weird one:Looking back thru various Sentinel appearances, all the way back to their debut, and it seems as if I was the first to draw them with their mouths open--and with that Doctor Doom like grating inside. Is that possible?
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Tony Frye
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Well, I do know you were the first to make them scary. That two-partner changed this 12-year-olds entire point of view of them.
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Brennan Voboril
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Nathan that is so strange. He can't be pictured holding a can of beer? What a world. It reminds of the spanking scene way back in this threat - totally harmless fun that some went bananas over.
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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 21 November 2018 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | 11
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JB: Here's a weird one:Looking back thru various Sentinel appearances, all
the way back to their debut, and it seems as if I was the first to draw them
with their mouths open--and with that Doctor Doom like grating inside.
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I know Neal Adams drew a Sentinel with an open mouth, expressing shock
when Larry Trask finally convinces the Judge to use that strange device to
wake up Alex Summers. I don't have an image to post, but I remember the
impact of the Sentinel looking completely freaked out by the Judge's
surprise move. Probably issue #59, iirc.
Edit: I just found the page online, and it revealed two things -- no Doctor
Doom grating, and the Sentinel is scripted to say "Waking up Alex Summers
is no big deal" - but his gaping mouth made me read the image as a
Sentinel in panic. But then, the next page, has the classic moment when the
Sentinel accidentally injures a human and raises the alarm: "Disaster!" he
shouts, open-mouthed - with no grating.
Not sure if this is helpful or not. Was the query about just the open
mouth/grating combination?
Edited by Mark Haslett on 21 November 2018 at 2:31pm
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 21 November 2018 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | 12
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There it is! I knew something was buzzing deep in the furrows of the back of my brain!!
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