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Brennan Voboril
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Posted: 10 April 2019 at 4:10pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Yes, JB I remembered that you only post here, and are not on Facebook etc.  I just found it slightly amusing that this guy thought you were incognito at "his" Facebook page.  
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Jeffrey Rice
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Posted: 10 April 2019 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

JB, Back to the Kitty/Peter thing. How old is Peter? 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 April 2019 at 5:39pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

In my day, Peter was about 18 (to Kitty’s 14).

Coincidentally, approximately the same range as the kids in Disney’s ALADDIN.

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Steve Green
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Posted: 10 April 2019 at 5:53pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

JB: In my day, Peter was about 18 (to Kitty’s 14).

Coincidentally, approximately the same range as the kids in Disney’s ALADDIN.

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Also around the same as in Romeo and Juliet, which has the latter approaching her 14th birthday, although she's apparently 16 in the poem which inspired Shakespeare (or should that be Edward de Vere?).

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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 10 April 2019 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

"A complaint over in the comments under one of the SyFy interviews. A poster who thinks I should get over my "ego" and invite Claremont to be part of this project.


Kinda missing the point, no?"

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For what it's worth, back when this was being thought about back in '09 as X-Men: Evermore, Claremont said on a forum that he'd love to see it himself, speaking as a fan.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 4:17am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

As I remember, “Evermore” followed the model of Chris’ FOREVER project, picking up from where I left the book. Very different from ELSEWHEN.
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Richard Palmgren
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 7:36am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

In my day, Peter was about 18 (to Kitty’s 14).
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According to you, how old are each of the X-men in Elsewhen?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 8:58am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Tough call. There’s so much conflicting data—such as Xavier being in his twenties in X-MEN 1, but not long after having fought in the Korean conflict.
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 9:17am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

How about just Jean and Scott?
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Richard Palmgren
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 10:07am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

How about just Jean and Scott?
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Not to answer for the esteemed Mr. Byrne, but, since Elsewhen takes place weeks after the "true" version of 137, and Jean's tombstone in 138 says 1956 - 1980, she seems to be 24.  I always assumed that Scott was a year older.

Is that right?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 10:10am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

The X-Men were originally identified as “teenagers”, with only Bobby Drake being noted as a specific age (16) in the first issue. Allowing that Hank was the oldest (I had him turn 20 in HIDDEN YEARS), that would put Scott and Jean somewhere around 18/19.

Here we see, of course, the problem that arises when we get even close to tying these things down. The team remained teenagers for many years, which taxed even “Marvel Time” in the minds of some. This is why, by the time Chris and I got to 138 we felt compelled to make Jean the age shown on her headstone. (1956-1980)

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Richard Palmgren
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 This is why, by the time Chris and I got to 138 we felt compelled to make Jean the age shown on her headstone. (1956-1980)
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Well, if you apply the timeline you mapped out in AF through the narration and dialogue ("10 years ago", "3 years later...", etc.) , Jean's age of 24 works for events happening in "1980" (in Marvel time, the events of issue #1 of the X-men occur 7 years before issue 138, with only 1 1/2 years between #98 and 137)
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