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Peter Martin
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 9:34am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The latest page is beautiful. A lot tighter than when you were getting started with that first page thanks to our bad interpretative inking! The small things add up to create a nicely satisfying the whole: the relative size of each character, the way Storm's cape and the strap of mini-cerebro hang in the final panel, the way the strap goes from hanging taut to loosening as Cyclops lifts it, and --as always -- that clear visual narrative in the art and clues to characterisation in the demeanour of each person.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 9:35am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Also, there are some amazing inking going on here. I was going to try my own hand at it but I'm just too blown away by you guys. I'm reminded of the old Marvel Try-Out book. I didn't think I could improve on Big John Romita's pencils then and I definitely don't think I could with JB's now.

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Don't think of it as "improving", think of it as tidying.

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Mike Baswell
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I know and understand why he's not there, but I wish Banshee was with the group. I enjoyed the X-Men even more when he was around.

Edited by Mike Baswell on 17 July 2018 at 9:53am
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Gundars Berzins
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 9:46am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Your run with the X-Men back then, picking up a new book was like looking at fireworks. All of the oohs and aahs had been so enjoyable and left one wanting more. Great memories. Now I'm going through it again only the fireworks are even bigger and better. Thank you JB. This is helping us with that itch too. 
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Mike Baswell
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 9:54am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

One wonders if these will help silence the 'his old stuff was better' critics? The work is so familiar, yet so much more evolved and fluid over what JB probably would have done had this been published during the era it represents. Also, we're seeing it without the benefit of Austin inks, which, while beautiful, did have a distinct impact of the overall look of the art.
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I still think inks by Mark Farmer (or JB) would be oo la la!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 10:27am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Watch the language, Wallace!
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Steve Gumm
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 10:44am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Just had to say how darn cool it is to be seeing these pages drop. I was floored with page one, but each progressive page just gets better, I think you are in a heck of a grove. The top panel with of this page shows one of my favorite of JB various skills - the worms eye view camera angle! I love that panel in particular.

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Brennan Voboril
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 11:07am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

One wonders if these will help silence the 'his old stuff was better' critics? The work is so familiar, yet so much more evolved and fluid over what JB probably would have done had this been published during the era it represents. Also, we're seeing it without the benefit of Austin inks, which, while beautiful, did have a distinct impact of the overall look of the art.

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Doubt it.  I think a lot of the "his old stuff was better" sentiment is driven solely by nostalgia.  A lot of us grew up on Uncanny, or earlier JB work, so we have it in our minds just how great it was - like an movie, or piece of music, etc.  When we see the old stuff we think of that time period in our lives and they represent something (the good old days) that was somehow better and that colors the impression of the artwork.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 11:14am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

As kurt busiek has said, the Golden Age of comics is 12.

As with so many who cannot accept the most simple tropes of the form, there are many who cannot grasp this, either.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 11:18am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

A bit more script. . .

SO quick and dirty!

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Rick Senger
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Posted: 17 July 2018 at 11:20am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Great page.
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