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Matt Hawes
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The single power thing was there at the beginning,
though it did start to change when Roy Thomas took
over writing the original series. I mentioned
elsewhere that I have been recently re-reading the
early issues of X-MEN, and I forgot that Jean
wasn't given telepathy as an added ability until
after issue #29 (I still haven't reached the issue
yet in my re-reading).
The only real exception to the single power thing
in those early issues may be Magneto, who
originally had some mental ability to project
himself in astral form, though that was later
dropped and ignored.
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Matt Hawes
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About Dean's list...It's Banshee's sonic powers
that enables him to fly. As described by Banshee,
himself, in his first appearance, it's the sonic
vibrations he creates that propels him through the
air.
I haven't got to re-reading Sunfire's first
appearance, yet, but I am thinking his power of
flight is related to his producing heat to rise him
aloft.
Storm's ability is to control the weather. That's
one power with multiple uses. It's not flight PLUS
wind manipulation, it's flight THROUGH wind
manipulation. It's no more another power than it is
for Jean when she uses telekinesis to levitate.
And, speaking of Jean, as explained in my post
above, Jean originally only had telekinesis. It
was not Stan Lee or Jack Kirby who gave her
telepathy, but rather Roy Thomas.
JB noted that Stan Lee referred to "X" meaning one
extra ability separate from humans, and early on
that seemed to hold true. It was later writers that
changed that situation.
Edited by Matt Hawes on 09 June 2020 at 6:09pm
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Brian Miller
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The only real exception to the single power thing
in those early issues may be Magneto, who
originally had some mental ability to project
himself in astral form, though that was later
dropped and ignored.
*********
Until Claremont.
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Matt Hawes
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Brian, I forgot Claremont brought that back.
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Yeah, I never liked that part.
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John Byrne
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Hey, I used it in HIDDEN YEARS. And astral projection slips under the gate as an ability “anyone” can have. It’s not a mutation.
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Robbie Moubert
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Sunfire...
Edited by Robbie Moubert on 09 June 2020 at 6:56pm
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John Byrne
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And, speaking of Jean, as explained in my post above, Jean originally only had telekinesis. It was not Stan Lee or Jack Kirby who gave her telepathy, but rather Roy Thomas.••• Jean was revealed to have been “sharing” Xavier’s telepathic powers while he was “dead”. Somehow, when he came back, she kept them.
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Dean, I think that the characters you mentioned had aspects to their powers from a singular mutation. I'd give some consideration to what you've noted, but then I'd go back to Iceman and look at several powers that are developed from ice generation.
But when we get into Nightcrawler or Wolverine... yes, that starts getting complicated.
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Wolverine is not complicated if we accept the healing factor as his mutation. The bone claws are just a stupid mistake.
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Vinny Valenti
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"So, Nightcrawler is cool—and also Dave’s personal favorite, as well as avatar in the book. So Kurt gets all the toys."
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And Tony Stark's! I must admit that I'm surprised that you used the Image Inducer here in ELSEWHEN, since you had phased out his use of it the first time around.
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"The bone claws are just a stupid mistake."
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I was all ready to actually like the "reveal", since I was logically assuming that bone claws would be useless - breaking the moment they were used against nearly anything, not to mention painful as hell for bare bones to have anything being pushed against it when trying to cut something - leaving an ironic situation of Wolverine being effectively powerless by not being able to actually use his claws. It could have made for an interesting story arc.
But after a few initial breaks over the first few issues, he was back to cutting metal doors down like butter, just with bone claws now - making the whole thing nothing more than a sales ploy. |
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