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John Byrne
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JB draws the best Phoenix effect, and today's last panel proves that point•• Dave once said in an interview that if ever they brought Phoenix back, he intended to follow my model for the bird effect. Funny thing was, I thought I was following his!
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John Byrne
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JB, I continue to be amazed by the way you depict bursts of energy and light.•• Thanks. They're kind of a fusion of Jack Kirby and Joe Kubert.
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Michael Penn
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JB's Phoenix effect looks to me rather like Mr. Cockrum's
from the cover to UXM #125 -- nice!
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Even though he was a bit further away from the blast, it's interesting that Gladiator is more or less unscathed by it (even his cape is spared) -not a critique, it just looks cool and shows how powerful he is (hurts for me to say it as he has never been a favorite of mine TBH)
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Steven Queen
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JB's phoenix effect should be hanging in an art gallery. It's as original, beautiful, and fascinating as any masterwork. Full stop.
On the story side...a call for a little help for the slow-witted (me):
Lilandra was obsessed with the Phoenix entity for as-yet-still-unrevealed-reasons...right?
And we are seeing in today's page, it escaping the containment "egg" and possessing her for the first time---or was there a slow corruption occurring over numerous visit?
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John Byrne
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And we are seeing in today's page, it escaping the containment "egg" and possessing her for the first time---or was there a slow corruption occurring over numerous visit?•• Ah, perhaps a case of my NOT being as overly obvious as I feared! Altho effectively "caged", the Phoenix Entity was "poisoning" Lilandra's mind over many visits--perhaps even starting as early as the encounter on the Moon.
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Steven Queen
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Thank you! I'm sure it was obvious to most.
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I like that idea of it happening as early as the moon. Lilandra was still good at that point, until Phoenix put it into her head that she needed that power on behalf of her empire. That was the first shift in character for her then, and still seemed somewhat innocuous, as any ruler might be tempted by power in that way.
It all looks like hubris, but maybe it was a mind being poisoned and led there all along.
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We can dig it!...Too late?
I love your outer space and technical work, Mr. Byrne. You follow in Jack Kirby's steps; the technology and engineering may be totally unreal, but it surely looks as if it works! And to perhaps cast a slight shadow, yours doesn't take up excessive space. Jack Kirby's gizmos were gorgeous - sometimes to the point of drawing attention from the FF, or Thor, etc. Your work is a scalpel... it's there, it's appreciated, but it might take a second or third perusal to appreciate JUST how functional it looks!
As for that final panel - it's scary enough to surpass "bad ass." That's just sheer, utter, threatening. BEAUTIFUL!
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I wonder if the Phoenix used used the same strategy to "suggest" a particular scheme to Mastermind and The White Queen. Anything to escape the cage Jean had put it in.
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It may be a long shot, but I hope we haven't seen the last of Gladiator. I didn't like the character when I first "met" him because he defeated Colossus in the same issue, but my feelings changed by the end of his encounter with the Fantastic Four.
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John Byrne
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(whistling)
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