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Matt Hawes
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Rebecca: "...The Beast seemed to have become the bouncy joking furry guy by the time he became an Avenger circa #137..."
As JB noted, Hank McCoy deliberately changed his personality, and that occurred in the run of solo tales from "Amazing Adventures". The Iron Man story you mentioned happened at the beginning of those stories.
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John Byrne
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They were a mystery in that the general public didn't know about them being students, or their connection to Professor Xavier, but they were known to the public in their earliest stories. Heck, the team actually worked with an FBI agent originally. ••• Makes me think back to the first meeting between the X-Men and the FF. Using clues he has gleaned from careful study of every report of the X-Men’s activities, the Mad Thinker is able to guide the Puppet Master in sculpting a bust of the team’s “mysterious leader”. Basically just a bald head with a sketched in face*, but enough to gain mental control over X. ————— * Originally a much more detailed likeness. I used to own the art for one of those pages, and what had first been penciled and inked had been blotted over with white-out fluid.
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Matt Hawes
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Here's some examples that the general public had some awareness of the X-Men, and knew they were mutants:
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Matt Hawes
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Here's a page from "Avengers" where Beast is first seen by the public with the team. A newsman interviewing them recognizes Beast, and the crowd seems to know that he is also a mutant. Whether they think he is the same Beast that was an X-Man isn't clear, but the general public has been shown to know that a member of the mutant group they know as The X-Men was named The Beast, so...
Here Patsy Walker seeks to out the Beast, but discovers he no longer hides his real identity...
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Steven Queen
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Heh! "Dr.X", "teleportation powers..."
But man, I sure did enjoy Kirby's art and the light-hearted scripting of those original stories.
Edited by Steven Queen on 18 February 2021 at 2:56pm
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QUOTE:
Heh! "Dr.X", "teleportation powers..."
But man, I sure did enjoy Kirby's art and the light-hearted scripting of those original stories. |
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Ditto, SQ! I'd love to read more superhero books with that tone, but I guess the time for those kinds of stories has long passed...
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Also... I am not a fan of furry Beast's "Oh, my stars and garters."
Edited by Wallace Sellars on 18 February 2021 at 3:30pm
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John Byrne
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Boy, Colleta really stepped on George, didn’t he!
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I'm sure he was a lovely man, but Colletta seemed to step on pretty much everyone he inked. I've never been a big fan of his work, and in that "Avengers" art, he really overwhelms the young, budding artist that Perez was at the time.
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I HATE that Ironman nose!
Edited by James Johnson on 18 February 2021 at 4:19pm
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It's too bad we can't retcon the furry Beast's origin a bit. What if Hank created a serum to give other people his powers as a humanitarian gesture, but the first person to test it also became furry? Boom, now you got two Beasts and the second one can even be a scientist.
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And then McCoy forgets how to make the serum? How do we not end up with a million Beasts? And even assuming you somehow addressed that, wouldn't it be a classic case of de-uniquing?
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