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John Byrne
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For no particular reason, I felt like posting this again. Such a brilliant bat-moment by Denny and Neal.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 01 December 2022 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | 2
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Incidentally, next year that issue will be FIFTY YEARS OLD.No big(ger) deal to some of you young punks, I know. But I bought it off the spinner rack at a local convenience store, brand new! GRROOOAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN
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Michael Penn
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> I bought it off the spinner rack <
Me too.
"GAKK!"
Such a great use of the format of comicbooks, leaving us hang at the bottom of page 8 and then hitting us with that top panel on page 9.
It's like Neal Adams was, um, good at this, or something...
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 01 December 2022 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | 4
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Most likely that sequence--and the issue as a whole--was done Full Script, so give Denny his due for much of the pacing of this scene.
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Michael Penn
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Due-ly noted!
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Eric Morin
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I miss that Batman.
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Vinny Valenti
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I like that it's clever, but it's also not hitting the reader over the head about it being clever.
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Mitch Denoyer
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That scene always made me wonder if there was a “Smaller Melvin”.
Edited by Mitch Denoyer on 02 December 2022 at 4:29pm
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Brian Miller
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I love how that shows what an influence Adams/Giordano was on
Miller/Janson.
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Vinny Valenti
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I remember seeing some of the self-inked Adams pages from Avengers#96 for the first time not until the early 2000s TPB, and how modern it looked, even more than the rest of Adam's other-inked work from the same period. I realized that it looked like Bill Sienkiewicz's inks. Then of course I realized how much Bill was really influenced by Neal, even in the inks.
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Greg McPhee
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Most likely that sequence--and the issue as a whole--was done Full Script, so give Denny his due for much of the pacing of this scene.
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Steve Englehart said in his introduction to the Strange Apparitions collection that he initially did Detective Comics Marvel-style when Walt Simonson was pencilling, and then after Walt left, and Steve wasn't sure who was going to take over, he wrote everything full script and found that with Batman that allowed him to nuance and pace the stories better.
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JB: did you ever have a geek out moment when you worked with Denny later and ask him about the making of those comics?
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