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David Miller
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Posted: 07 March 2025 at 4:49am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

My late father worked for the Social Security Administration for thirty years, and growing up, my family acutely experienced every government shutdown.

Musk and Trump's DOGE campaign of vandalism and sabotage is already indefensible in terms of leaglity, sense and strategy, but the gloating sadism is beyond despicable.

They couldn't be satisfied with mass layoffs, no, they have to claim every government employee is being fired for cause, loathsomely attempting to not just the petty meanness of denying unemployment benefits, but to render them unemployable and salt the very earth of their careers.

Then you have small, crawling things like Marjhorie Taylor saying federal workers do not deserve their paychecks, as if she isn't the worst.

Every Republican is a complete piece of shit for supporting this.
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Paul Issar
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Posted: 08 March 2025 at 1:03am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Pretty good imitation of Trump.
From This Hour Has 22 Minutes.


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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Trumps order to turn off intelligence sharing with Ukraine completes our
swing to a pro-Putin US foreign policy.

No American interest is served unless we take it as an international good to
murder a free people into submission.

And to counter the disinformation spread on this board, I wanted to post the
A.P. article about the undeniable presence of North Korean soldiers in the
ranks of Russia’s invading army. Proof

This is a time of Trump’s highest betrayal of America, forcing us to actively
participate in the killing of innocent Ukraine citizens. This morning comes
the White House move toward deporting all Ukrainians who came to the
U.S. for asylum.

Less than a year ago, Spkr. Johnson spoke eloquently about our need to
support Ukraine. Rubio spoke eloquently about the powerful damage
caused by Russia all over the world, including his ancestral home of Cuba
where his family had to flee. Now they are supporting the Russians for no
apparent reason. If you live in their states, it might be fun to write or call
and humiliate them with their own words.

Edited by Mark Haslett on 10 March 2025 at 1:22pm
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Jason Czeskleba
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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

 Brennan Voboril wrote:
Little old me?  Honored.  90 million Americans did not vote in the last election (that is more than who voted for either candidate).  We didn't like the choices.  There was no way I would have voted for either of those two. 
People that do not vote are people who fail to understand the actual purpose of voting.  It's really sad there are so many of them.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 6:00pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

The Electoral College seriously messes with the whole concept of democratic voting. One man (person), one vote? Sure, if you happen to vote for the majority candidate in your state. If not, your vote goes to him/her anyway, and you might as well not have voted at all.
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ron bailey
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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 6:16pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

The perils of having democratic ideals but functioning as a representative republic, I'm afraid. In super-blue Chicago, we are responsible for the only midwest state going all blue in the last election.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 8:28pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

A curious thing is that with the presidency, the buck often stops with the President, even when it's something they haven't directly influenced. So if the economy is good, people think the president is doing a good job, if the economy is bad, people think the president is doing a bad job, even though it may well down to be factors beyond their control.

Yet with Trump, we have a situation where he is actively damaging the economy with his aggressive policy steps -- and is now even acknowledging himself that the US economy may be heading for a recession. This was entirely avoidable, but the last thing the economy needed was consumers facing more inflation shocks and the government effectively imposing a stealth tax on households. 
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 10:11pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I know Hitler is the popular go-to for fascist comparisons, but Trump just seems closer and closer to Mussolini as a proper historical analogue with each passing day.

Edited by Dave Kopperman on 10 March 2025 at 10:11pm
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 10:12pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

JB: The Electoral College seriously messes with the whole concept of democratic voting. One man (person), one vote? Sure, if you happen to vote for the majority candidate in your state. If not, your vote goes to him/her anyway, and you might as well not have voted at all.

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But how does any state reach a majority? When many states swing back and forth and some constantly threaten to swing? "Seriously messed with" -- yes -- but every election reveals a practical wisdom to the concept that every vote counts because a lot of the time (tho not all of the time) that's exactly correct.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Dave: I know Hitler is the popular go-to for fascist comparisons, but Trump just seems closer and closer to Mussolini as a proper historical analogue with each passing day.

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I don't think we need to get so poetic. He is a literal Russian agent in every conceivable way. He is America's Putin.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 March 2025 at 10:58pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

He’s Putin’s American.
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Koroush Ghazi
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Posted: 11 March 2025 at 12:23am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I prefer to think of him as Satan’s pinch hitter
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