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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 July 2024 at 7:19pm | IP Logged | 1
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Yes, Trumf gave a lot of people permission to be assholes.
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Rick Senger
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| Posted: 19 July 2024 at 7:23pm | IP Logged | 2
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Your uncle reminds me of someone close to me who is highly educated, smart and generally balanced about the world who is also a supporter of Trump. Not because he isn't aware of many of Trump's shenanigans (we've discussed it plenty and he acknowledges Trump is embarrassing in many ways) but simply because he is fiscally conservative and believes the dems will "bankrupt" the US with entitlements, etc. I've reminded him that Trump raised the debt more than any president in US history with much of the money going to the wealthiest people / corporations through tax breaks and his reply is that COVID "distorted" things. There just seems to be an "us and them" brick wall mentality that doesn't allow for reasoned debate any more. People are entrenched in their views and don't see themselves as extreme (he probably finds me to be extreme to turn it around.) I've already kind of given up on congress ever regaining any bipartisanship or much civility but now I'm starting to despair for what seems like a permanent loss of it in daily life, as well. Just reading that last sentence makes me wonder if I've become a Richard Vernon; maybe so. But I'm still sad about it.
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Brian ONeill
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| Posted: 19 July 2024 at 7:52pm | IP Logged | 3
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It would have been nice, if only for a few days,to have experienced a reality without Trump, but with Newhart.
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 19 July 2024 at 10:34pm | IP Logged | 4
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A few days of showing respect to Biden and his accomplishmentswould be nice too.
Regardless, next week will be an interesting week. (Cue dramatic music!)
-C!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 July 2024 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | 5
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I feel like the Benny Hill theme would be more appropriate.
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 20 July 2024 at 1:40am | IP Logged | 6
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Now I’ll not be able to hear anything else, JB! 😂
-C!
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Wilson Mui
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| Posted: 20 July 2024 at 7:24am | IP Logged | 7
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AOC made some good points on why the Democrats
should keep Biden on the ticket.
LINK
1) There is no unanimous support for having
Harris lead the ticket. An open convention
would be chaotic and could lead to lawsuits by
Republicans especially in swing states saying
it was too late to change the ticket, which
could mean the Supreme Court could end up
deciding the election.
2) Any support Biden and Harris may not be
transferable to other candidates that replace
them like retirees for Biden or minority women
for Harris.
3) She also mentions that most of the
Democrats coming out against Biden are being
influenced by their wealthy donors and not
necessarily their constituents.
Edited by Wilson Mui on 20 July 2024 at 2:16pm
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Casey Sager
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| Posted: 20 July 2024 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | 8
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AOC lost all credibility with me as a progressive quite a while ago, so her coming out like this doesn't shock me.
I believe her to be 100% wrong in her take.
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Mitch Denoyer
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JB: Everything is 50/50. Either it will happen or it won’t. ===================================== Ummmm. No.
Just because there are only two options to a particular question doesn’t mean each option has an equal chance of happening. Each time I play the lotto I’ll either win or I won’t. That doesn’t mean I’ll win half the the time.
Edited by Mitch Denoyer on 20 July 2024 at 2:31pm
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 20 July 2024 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | 10
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JB: Everything is 50/50. Either it will happen or it won’t. ===================================== Ummmm. No. ••• sigh
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James Johnson
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| Posted: 20 July 2024 at 3:57pm | IP Logged | 11
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I can only imagine the possible shitshow that will happen in Chicago in a few weeks............
There are too many folks that haven't learned their lesson from 20rh Century US History: 101
Edited by James Johnson on 20 July 2024 at 4:01pm
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Matt Reed
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| Posted: 20 July 2024 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | 12
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Casey Sager wrote:
| AOC lost all credibility with me as a progressive quite a while ago… |
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Why?
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