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John Byrne
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LINKAnnoyed to see Puck on this list—until I read the entry and was reminded of what they did to him after I left.
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Conrad Teves
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| Posted: 20 April 2025 at 1:30pm | IP Logged | 2
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Creatives are often asked where they get their ideas from, but reading that summary makes me think said creatives were high as a kite when they wrote it.
(edited for spelling)
Edited by Conrad Teves on 20 April 2025 at 1:30pm
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Edward Aycock
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Good lord. That's quite a retcon they did to him.
He was named after a hockey puck? I always assumed it was more in line with the Shakespeare character and the definition as a "mischievous sprite" but I overlooked the hockey/Canada connection.
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 20 April 2025 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | 4
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His skin is like rubber? Where was that established? I don’t remember
Mantlo even doing that.
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Craig Earl
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| Posted: 20 April 2025 at 5:32pm | IP Logged | 5
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Puck was my favourite member of AF under JB (with #5 being a particular highlight).
What Mantlo did to him was just horrible.
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Brian Floyd
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| Posted: 20 April 2025 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | 6
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I'd get 3-D Man off that list. Actually thought it was a pretty interesting concept, just not executed well by others after the original Marvel Premiere run.
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Eric Jansen
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| Posted: 20 April 2025 at 11:35pm | IP Logged | 7
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Dr. Bong?!? You can't make fun of something intended as a joke! Why not Turnip Man and Hell-Cow too?!?
People who clearly don't know what they're talking about should be ignored.
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Jonathan A. Dowdell
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I feel like there are no bad characters, only "Ridiculous" writers.
Edited by Jonathan A. Dowdell on 21 April 2025 at 1:00am
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Joseph Vecchio
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Puck was one of my favorite characters! I realize they put him on that list based on what was done to him after JB had left, so I'm glad I didn't see any of that. But he was awesome to me!
Also, Paste-Pot-Pete, at the beginning, literally had a bucket of paste he had to carry around with him!
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Jean Voulis
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Loved puck!!
Brian - in the Avengers run by Busiek and Perez they modernized 3D man (Trinity) into a cool concept that really worked (and incorporated his past history) - so yes no lame characters.
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Charles Valderrama
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JB, I'm glad you made a point of proving "lame" characters could be fun and interesting during your SHE-HULK run.
Worth noting that you seemed to prove THAT in most of your runs.
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Brian Floyd
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| Posted: 21 April 2025 at 6:48pm | IP Logged | 12
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Loved puck!!
Brian - in the Avengers run by Busiek and Perez they modernized 3D man (Trinity) into a cool concept that really worked (and incorporated his past history) - so yes no lame characters.
++++++++++++++++++++++++ I know. Triathalon. Who they eventually turned into the new 3D-Man, with Chuck and Hal reunited.
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