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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 05 May 2026 at 2:53am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Found on Facebook - from the movie RAD (ok, it's no ROBOCOP):


I'm placing this around the third or forth week of August 1985, given the issues on the rack (AF#28 was a July '85 book, but apparently #29 didn't go on sale until the first week of September).

If my eye is correct, JB was involved in 4 of the books shown. I almost said 5, but it turns out I was off on one title by a month.
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Craig Earl
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Posted: 05 May 2026 at 6:04am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Ah, AF#28...

The end of an era. Little did we know about the deterioration to come...

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Edward Aycock
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I remember buying AF #28 and Crisis #8, both pictured, at the same time.  
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John Byrne

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Posted: 05 May 2026 at 12:22pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

1985. So long ago!
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Vinny Valenti
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I just confirmed my suspicion that the sale dates on mikesamazingworld.com are off by a couple of weeks. I knew something had to be off when it said that ALPHA FLIGHT#29 went on sale the first week of September. It also said that OHOTMUDE #1 went on sale on August 27 - which I knew had to be wrong because my sister was born on August 11 that year, and I distinctly remember going to see my mom and her in the hospital with that issue in hand. Also, comics hit the direct market shops on Friday back then.

So, I went looking on comics.org. There, it says that OHOTMUDE #1 went on sale on August 9th, which exactly lines up with my memories - that's a Friday and it came out days before my sister was born. So to anyone who obsessed over such things (like me!), comics.org seems to have their sale dates exactly right.*

I bet mikesamazingworld is reporting newsstand sale dates, because they always got their comics a couple of weeks to a month after the direct market - I took advantage of that when the death of Jason Todd happened by phone poll. It sold out quickly in the local comic shop, so I just waited to buy it at the newsstand, knowing ahead of time the outcome. I had assumed that newsstand editions were worth less due to this trick, plus the UPC symbol being unsightly. But lately I've been reading that the newsstand editions are worth more because a large percentage of them were returned to the distributor and had less in circulation.

My obsessive eye detects that these are newsstand editions in this scene - I don't see the disctintive "M" that Marvel used for the price and issue number on their direct market covers at the time. So this scene was very likely shot when I originally assumed as the last week of August, 1985.

The more you know!

*This also explains why AVENGERS ANNUAL#14 flew under my radar. Since the cover was by Kerry Gammill, I never picked it up in the shop to realize that JB had done the breakdowns inside. And since it came out in the summer, I didn't find out about this until months later when one of the kids in school brought it in, and I was shocked to see the interiors with Kyle Baker finishes. I remember being in 8th grade math class when I first laid eyes on it. And since it was an "extra" book, I didn't have enough money to buy it on my own. I wish I could have told 12-year-old me that one day I would own a page of this $1.25 comic that I could not afford!


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Vinny Valenti
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Finishing my obsessive research, RAD hit the theaters on March 21, 1986, so that gives you an idea of the movie's lead time. Plus I just remembered that Rifftrax covered this movie - now I have TWO reasons to go watch it!
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 05 May 2026 at 1:33pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

That's so long ago for me it's already about 3-4 years after I stopped reading comicbooks. Yikes. Old, man!
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Brandon Carter
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I preferred ALPHA FLIGHT's original logo but that one is probably the most easily readable from a distance of all those pictured!



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Edward Aycock
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Posted: 05 May 2026 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Definitely August.  I remember buying AF #28 for a friend who was spending the summer in the middle of nowhere, Virginia to give him when he got back. There were some pretty good stories happening that summer.  

That would have been the last Mantlo/Mignola Hulk on the bottom of the rack, right?

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Vinny Valenti
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Yep! I'm surprised that JB's Hulk Annual with Sal Buscema isn't on the rack, since it supposedly came out the same day as OHOTMUDE #1, which is there. It came out weeks before his first issue on the regular title!
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Brett Stuart
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Posted: 05 May 2026 at 2:34pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Man, I love that Avengers annual beneath Alpha Flight.  It was probably a decade later that I finally got to read the Fantastic Four annual it paired with.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 05 May 2026 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I preferred ALPHA FLIGHT's original logo but that one is probably the most easily readable from a distance of all those pictured!

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Precisely why I changed it!

I have said more than once that there are two kinds of good logos. First, those that are instantly recognizable, if not necessarily readable, at a distance. Think FANTASTIC FOUR or SUPERMAN. Second, those that are readable, of which the best example is probably ROM.

With this in mind I designed the ALPHA logo seen here to incorporate both.

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