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Richard Palmgren
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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

As I've said before, none of the little nit-picking matters.  In the end, regardless of numbering or "broken continuity" or characters we see or don't see, the fact that this even exists makes it a true dream come true!  

I only wish the series is such a success that everyone at the top realizes they've made a mistake for the last 30 years and they scrap everything that's happened since then and pick up back in 1980.  

Oh, and if it does get to the point where you need to convince anyone, you could mention that Marvel can re-market the other "Forever" stories to release with Elsewhen.  They love to recycle any time they think the market will let them.
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Paul Wills
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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 4:03pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Scrap the ENTIRE 38 page issue? You wouldn't! Wait a minute...yes...yes you would...
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Nathan Greno
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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

John Byrne: Which leads me to contemplations of--yes--scrapping the whole issue. All 38 pages. Starting from scratch, with something that will more properly serve the roll I didn't really have in mind for it when I started.

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I believe this shows how much you really care about the project. Godspeed. 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 4:30pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I only wish the series is such a success that everyone at the top realizes they've made a mistake for the last 30 years and they scrap everything that's happened since then and pick up back in 1980.

•••

Oh, but we’ve seen what happens when modern writers try to recapture bygone days. Not a pretty sight.

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Thomas Woods
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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 5:00pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I disagree about scrapping it, I think jumping in right
in the middle of the action and not explaining anything
is fine.

Action is something comics have lacked for a long time.
They reduce it to like a panel or two and then the rest
of the issues are talking heads brooding about their
lives.

Maybe just have one of those summary pages at the end or
beginning (don't even like those personally).

Edited by Thomas Woods on 26 November 2018 at 5:02pm
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 5:13pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I'll take whatever I can get!
...and I trust "The Plotter Supreme" to deliver!

Since I quit the X-Men all together by #143, to me this would be like a return from a hiatus. A 38 year hiatus sure but since I've not read them since, it will  feel like they never left!

A question for JB;
Any chance of revisiting Sprite's uniform color choice of black/white with red boots?
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 5:19pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Wow! Quite the move to consider scrapping a double-sized issue. Good that you think you can re-purpose a substantial portion of the pages though and I'm glad to hear that you're feeling so much creative drive!

Edited by Peter Martin on 26 November 2018 at 5:20pm
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Cory Vandernet
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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 12:52am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Steve Green

The Savage Surfer story-line from Silver Surfer 18 was continued 29 years later in Webspinners 4-6. Pencils by Keith Giffen.

And now back to our regular programming.  ;)


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John Byrne

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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 7:57am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Mulling and musing....

It occurs to me that the solution is not to redraw, but to reWRITE. To shift emphasis in certain scenes. Since I had already decided to make use of thought balloons and narrative captions in this "series", I can mix in what I feel might be missing thru the contemplations of the character.

Maybe.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 8:15am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Thanks for the ongoing peek into the creative process, JB!
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Charles Nelson
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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 9:34am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I'm glad to hear about the thought balloons. I couldn't remember if they had made the "cut". 
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I realize that the reasons you dropped the use of thought balloons are noble,
but I would argue that the same search for storytelling efficiency that drove
you that way is what made your use of them so excellent. I admire your
thought-balloon-writing as being particularly "in the voice" of characters and
particularly revealing in story-enhancing ways.

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