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John Byrne
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Bad scans cause lines to vanish. Production gnomes who don’t adjust for different inkers using different inks.
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Brennan Voboril
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I see. Thank you. It would really be wonderful of IDW does indeed do an AE-style book of this potential series. That is the closest most of us will ever come to seeing the original pencils.
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John Byrne
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Will anyone in Elsewhen, besides Kitty, be wearing the original uniforms?••• As it stands right now, no. Not for a while, anyway.
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Richard Palmgren
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Thanks for the answer! I wait with bated breath!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 21 December 2018 at 9:40am | IP Logged | 5
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A friend raised a point: since I want these pencils to be shot to blue line for inking, he suggested I would not be entitled to return of any of the finished pages. All of it would stay with the inker.Now, I think I can see where he's coming from. When some clod takes an image I've posted and inks it, then puts it up on eBay as "John Byrne art", of course I object and disown the piece. That's not my work on the page. In the case of something shot to blue, tho, the work is created with that in mind, and the inked pages are as much a part of the whole process as if the inks were on the originals. My work, then, so I would be entitled to the usual 2/3rds share of the pages. Thoughts?
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Mark Haslett
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Not even a lawyer on TV here, but if you are entitled to finished pages in the one case, then it seems de facto to me: you are entitled to finished pages in the other.
Dividing the "finished pages" is the issue in any apples-to-apples discussion here. It seems irrelevant that penciled pages may or may not exist as well because of the blue line process.
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Matt Hawes
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I agree with Mark.
How do publishers sort this out when the inks are digital?
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John Byrne
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The inker gets to keep his/her computer?
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Thomas Woods
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I would like to know how common digital pencils/inks are
these days.
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Robbie Moubert
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The pages wouldn't exist without your work so I'd say you'd be entitled to the normal share.
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Brennan Voboril
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Seems to me the standard deal would apply. As Robbie said, without you there are no pencils for the inker. An interesting question...
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Paul Wills
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I always believed that the artist was sole owner of the work - as with paintings, sculptures, etc. The interesting thing about comic art is that more people are involved in the final product in most cases. But shouldn't the 'creator' of the piece own the original work? What if the penciler does loose layouts and the inker finishes the rest? That's a tricky issue. I never knew how that was worked out in the industry.
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