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Steve Gumm
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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 7:05am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

WOW the transformation scene on the third page is incredible! What a joy to see these pages, thank you JB!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 7:06am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Or... what if we went back a bit further and wrapped up "Days of Future Past" as intended, with a clear win for the X-Men instead of a big question mark hanging over them?

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Granted my memory is beginning to resemble Swiss cheese, but wasn't DAYS OF FUTURE PAST after the death of Phoenix?

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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 7:16am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

As long as we're playing this game, let me point out that in a scenario like X-MEN ELSEWHEN, I would not use any of the post-Phoenix storylines Chris and I were planning, and that would necessitate having the Shi'ar perform some OTHER proceedure on Jean. Perhaps even introducing the Jean/Phoenix schism at that point. (Phoenix being literally sucked out of Jean could certainly make for some drama!)

Dammit, I need to stop thinking about this!!!

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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 7:43am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I'm having one of those days, JB. Yes, DOFP was indeed post-Phoenix, my apologies. The coffee simply has not kicked in yet. :)
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 7:44am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Maybe the M'Kraan Crystal could... dagnabbit.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 7:49am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Yes... you begin to see the challenge. Not unlike SUPERMAN II not being able to use Marlon Brando.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 7:56am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Speaking of inks...

With access to the Gallery restored, I was yesterday perusing some of the pencil scans, notably DOOM PATROL.

So, uhm, what were people complaining about? Forgive a towering immodesty, but that's some of the best drawings I've ever produced!!

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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 8:36am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

DOOM PATROL was beautiful. I have absolutely no idea what anyone faulted in the book--the story was very strong, the key characters were all there (and recognizable as themselves), the art was top notch... so what was the problem? I still don't get it, and I consider myself a longtime DP fan.
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 8:39am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I have the feeling too many fans default to the unthinking criticism Emperor Joseph II made of Mozart's work in AMADEUS: "Too many notes."

I mean... really, if there IS a legitimate criticism, why didn't we hear it?
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 12:16pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I hope it wasn't the wrong thing to do, speculating on a possible storyline. My apologies.

Edited by Andrew Bitner on 02 July 2018 at 12:19pm
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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I wonder what a battle would be like between the X-Men and a liberated Phoenix entity. I know we got something completely different with the Dark Phoenix saga and at the time I was blown away. But I know now what could have been and even my "arm chair wannabe author" could have done better with a reoccurring villian from a turned hero than the reoccurring Phoenix rehash that literally drove me away from the X-Men. There were so many possibilities since the can of worms was already opened making the X-Men the occassional interstellar team. It was a bit out of character for them, but I sure liked it. Well, right up until the Brood. =/

On the subject of inking, I have always liked the Frazetta take on pterodactyl wings.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 July 2018 at 1:41pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

It's not speculating on a possible storyline. It's SUGGESTING a possible storyline. Which has all kinds of legal ramifications.
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