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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 12:07pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Richard: (in Marvel time, the events of issue #1 of the X-men occur 7 years
before issue 138, with only 1 1/2 years between #98 and 137)

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I think the first part is right, but the second part is not.

The way I understand Marvel time is that, as you say, there are 7 years
between FF #1 and X-Men 138...

But there are also 7 years between FF#1 and X-Men 98.

In other words, there is almost no time between X-Men 98 and X-Men 138.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 12:16pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

JB: 2) Corporal Logan—but, yes, I figured him to have been born maybe in the
1920s.

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Should readers assume Wolverine in Elsewhen is strictly as seen in the comics
before your departure? (In other words, no samurai backstory or other later
revelations?)
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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

The “Seven Year Rule” was originally stated—by Len Wein as I recall—as being seven years since the FF went up and it would always be seven years!!
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 2:34pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Yeah, you also showed Reed Richards celebrating his 40th birthday in FANTASTIC FOUR (which jibes with Stan stating that he was in his mid-30s during the early days of the series), and just prior to that made a reference to the initial Skrull incursion from FF # 2 as having taken place "six years ago", so the seven-year-rule seems like a good fit.
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John Byrne

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Something that spoke rather dramatically to why the Seven Year Rule never really had a chance occurred not long after Len proposed it. It must have been something like 1977, and a writer for a fanzine declared that he could never accept the Rule, as he had a hard time believing all the stories were taking place in 1968.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Should readers assume Wolverine in Elsewhen is strictly as seen in the comics before your departure? (In other words, no samurai backstory or other later revelations?)

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This is going to sound mean and, to some, egotistical, but ELSEWHEN is a Chris-Free Zone. I’m not going to be using any of his material, except what was in place before I left—the Shi’ar, for instance.

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Scott Barnett
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

"This is going to sound mean and, to some, egotistical, but ELSEWHEN is a Chris-Free Zone. I’m not going to be using any of his material, except what was in place before I left—the Shi’ar, for instance."

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Only makes sense, since it wasn't you who had written those things into Wolverine's story.

So, we're going back to when Wolverine was a mystery? Ahhh- that just feels right!

Although, one wonders how much he'll be in your first arc, since you had Storm turn him into Canadian bacon in the first issue... :)
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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 3:35pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

He heals fast.
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Scott Barnett
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

No doubt- I can't wait to see more of him, especially in the brown and orange suit again.
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Jeffrey Rice
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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Thanks for the age confirmation. I always thought Peter was 17-18. Essentially the only teen from the "New" team. Until Kitty, of course. The rest being young adults to possibly older (Banshee) and who knows for Wolverine.

Corporal Logan and Cap. That sounds fun!
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Peter Martin
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In my head, I've long had Colossus pegged as being 17 years old. Not sure where I got that from originally. Some annoying part of my brain just made me remember Colossus going to a bar and being ID'd in UXM 183, so Chris had him as 19 at that point. To have done that story nowadays, it would put Colossus at 21...

18 works for the character for me!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 April 2019 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

That the characters were the ages they obviously were made it even more frustrating and absurd when Shooter rolled out his Whim of Iron to declare that being “students of Charles Xavier” (which was part of the top copy) was what defined the book. Chris and I insisted that the defining clause was “feared and hated by the world they are sworn to protect.”
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