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Michael Penn
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 8:03am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I, for one, have absolutely no problem with this approach -- and isn't it unquestionably appropriate for robotic duplicates?!

It's not like you forgot (or refused) to add the necessary shading to 126 and 127 too, after all. 

Logic pertains here, not lazy.
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Jim Petersman
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 8:09am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Wow! What a great way to start the day! And the implications of that page should set the internet on fire with all kinds of speculation! I can hardly wait to see this someday.
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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 8:31am | IP Logged | 3 post reply


Sentinels!!  I would not have thought I would be so happy to see these marauding, mutant killing robots!

Excellent page, JB - thank you for the peek!!


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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 8:35am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Not just mutant killing, this time!
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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 8:50am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Oh sweet Hey Zues! That is a fantastic page. Thanks for sharing JB.

I love pages like this because they challenge the inker to show depth.


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Peter Martin
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 9:14am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Sentinels to the south west... Hundreds of 'em.
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 9:39am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Excellent!
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 10:04am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

There is something quite terrifying about the high numbering and the row of identical, passionless faces. A bone-chilling page!
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 10:12am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Very cool page!!!

 John Byrne wrote:
...Byrne Bashers, the words you'll want to trot out are "cheating", "lazy" and perhaps even "creatively bankrupt". Have fun!...

And they'd show what fools they are in doing so. Nevermind that you are hardly the first to use a copy of the same image for artistic effect -- I recall a number of instances where artists used photostats of an image for repetition -- but I see no "cheating" in using whatever tools are available. 

People who criticize in such a way usually do so from a place of envy or jealousy.  They can't produce art, or not at the same level as you, and so look for any perceived chink in the armor to try to expose as some weakness.

Again,  such people are fools.

Thanks for sharing the page, JB!

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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 10:27am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Over the years I’ve found myself getting in trouble for some of the most benign actions. Using photo reference, using an Art-O-Graph, tracing models, USING models—even tho these are things artists have been doing for years.

I have strong memories of my own reactions the first time I got a peek behind the curtain. Surprise to discover Neal Adams made copious use of photos, for instance. I thought such things were only for mere mortals like me. But I took it as a learning experience.

Some fans don’t. They respond with hostility to anything that is not how they assumed it would be. Which is odd, really, since often I am merely a wee bit ahead of the curve, and not long after more and more people are following the same paths.

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Jonathan A. Dowdell
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 10:38am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Great page! I hope this is represents the continuation of Project Wideawake. 

Mr. Byrne, will you update us on how many pages/issue you are "in" on the Elsewhen project? 
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Scott Barnett
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Posted: 30 April 2019 at 10:38am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

"Over the years I’ve found myself getting in trouble for some of the most benign actions. Using photo reference, using an Art-O-Graph, tracing models, USING models—even tho these are things artists have been doing for years."
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I've seen a number of artists get raked over the coals for using methods 'traditional' illustrators have been using forever.

Non-artists don't understand (or don't want to).

I try and be careful about how much of my process I show, precisely because of that.
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