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Brian Miller
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 8:39am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Yeah. I don’t get that at all. 
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Steve Gumm
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

It's been a while since it was mentioned, but remember we aren't to try to guess where the plot is going. JB has put a lot of time into this, let us not ruin a plotline by trying to beat him to the punch. 

Let go on the the ride and see where he takes us!


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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 9:14am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Manuel - IS anyone ever an ex-X-Man? Or, to coin a phrase - once an X-Man, always an X-Man?

It would seem, from "Fate of the Phoenix", that when the word went out, Hank and Warren couldn't get there fast enough (and, had Bobby not been grossly omitted, I'll bet a nickel that he'd have been on the first express. Ditto that for Lorna and Alex and Sean.)

I can't think of too terribly many other times that X-Men were part of other teams... Hank was an Avenger, Bobby and Warren were Defenders, Storm was (ever so briefly) a member of the Fantastic Four*, Kitty and Kurt were members of Excalibur... but in every case (such as the forming of X-Factor), when Professor X or Cyclops sounded the clarion call, they were on the way post haste.

That might apply here, I reckon - which, of course, would be just FINE with me! ALL the X-Men together? Drawn by Mr. Byrne? I'll take an order of that!

*Interesting the way team names are broken down to individual members. One can be an Avenger, a Champion, a Defender, an Inhuman, an Invader, a New Mutant... but no one is a Fantastic, a Four, or even a Fantastic Four. Maybe an FF'er, but that seems a bit of a cheat.
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Ardel David
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 9:49am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Today's page: Is that Alex and Lorna? What a great page. That cabin / opening
door scene's moodiness and setting looks straight out of Halloween or Friday
the 13th. Hope they haven't been doing anything unchaste, cause that
would mean...
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 10:40am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

The shot of the Sentinel in silhouette through the door is nicely creepy.
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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 10:49am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Pages 4-6 all have some of the most varied textures and patterns I have ever seen on a JB page. It is just pencil lines, but so many of them mean something completely different. Lights and shadows, fabrics, etc. make these three pages a visual feast.
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 11:21am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

The Sentinels really do kind of rely on shock and awe tactics.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 12:28pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I didn't check on Friday, so had a nice treat of two pages to read today. I like how you play up the scary factor for the Sentinels. Sentinels coming through a roof is always a winner. And the drapes in today's page! Every page is a visual feast.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 2:13pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Jason: The Sentinels really do kind of rely on shock and awe tactics.

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Yes. These Sentinel attacks in Elsewhen have a different resonance for me as
an adult reader during this time of Trump/Miller's kids-in-cages, Muslim-
banning, immigrant crack-down. I imagine this sort of connection was not far
from mind when Kirby invented them - but it never really hit me consciously
until now how much a Sentinel can represent.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

There were a lot of subtle (and not so subtle) Nazi undertones in Stan and Jack’s X-MEN—including their portrayal of Magneto.
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Bill Dowling
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Posted: 09 September 2019 at 9:07pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Looking at what Alex* was wearing to bed made me think “man, Muir Island must be chilly,” but then I looked at what Lorna* was wearing to bed. 

(Assuming that’s who they are)
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Mal Gardiner
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Posted: 10 September 2019 at 1:30am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Chief, if it makes you feel mildly better I was in my second last year of high school driving my art teacher nuts by pointing at your X-Men/Murderworld 2-parter, fresh off the newsstand, saying “I want to learn this!!!”

These latest pages are beautiful, your space scenes are second to none and I love the atmosphere you work into your terrestrial pencils. Looking forward to Havoc cutting loose. 
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