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Peter Martin
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Once again, it's the drawing of the the Thing that most gets my attention here -- some novel angles we're seeing of Ben and they're so well realised. Are you using any kind of 3-d model to help visualise these 'shots'?
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Steve Adelson
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 9:23am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I never realized that there's a gap between Ben's "eyebrow" and the rest of his face!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 9:35am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Not so much a "gap" as an overhang.
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Tony Moretti
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 10:13am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

The panel showing Sue putting her hair up is a detail that most artists... scratch that... "Story Tellers" would have overlooked. And 2 panels later we see why. The forethought of our heroes is only surpassed by the forethought of the author. I miss real comics like this. Thanks JB
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 10:15am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Love the Thing in the last panel. Outside of Jack
Kirby, nobody else draws the Thing so good.

As for Emma Frost being proper for the time period,
it's pretty close... If we base things on your run
ending with issue 137 of "Uncanny X-Men" with this
revisionist take on the team after the Phoenix
saga, then this 10th issue of "Elsewhen" would
place the events on it around the same time as UXM
147. In UXM, Emma Frost reappeared in issue 151, so
close enough, I say.

Edited by Matt Hawes on 10 April 2020 at 10:16am
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 10:34am | IP Logged | 6 post reply


It's a nice callback to FF #232 (though I guess it wouldn't be a callback here, since Elsewhen would be happening before the FF/Diablo story).
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 10:36am | IP Logged | 7 post reply


From FF #261, the first time I remember Sue doing something like that.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 10:46am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I garnered an amazing and voluminous response from FF fans when I had Sue tie her hair back. They LOVED it. Possibly because it made her look somewhat younger.

Thanks must go out to inspiration provided by my then wife, who used to do it with her own hair. (Living with a real human woman had a profound influence on how I portrayed the female of the species.)

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Philippe Pinoli
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 10:53am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Well, on the non-kill of Emma by Jean...she was still doing her best to fight against the evil Dark Phoenix...on 2nd thought, that works for me, and thus, any future writer will have an opportunity to bring her back. Dead don't stay (very often) dead in Marvel...except if you see the corpse (see Mastermind, Octopus, Doom and so on...and JB already said (sort of) kill one but have an escape plan on hand for the next time you need him :)
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

About Sue's hair: One of the things I enjoyed about
your version of Susan,JB, was that you revived the
tradition of Sue getting new hairdos on occasion.
That bit was common in Jack Kirby's first few years
on "The Fantastic Four", but after he stopped she
had the same basic hairstyle until issue 232.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Since you all have to wait out the weekend for more of this issue, I thought you might like a peek at a non-spoiler page from #12.....

Crazy to look at that first panel and realize that when I drew the original, sometime in early 1980, there was no way I, or anyone else, could have predicted the world we live in today.

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Paul Wills
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Posted: 10 April 2020 at 1:12pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Wow! Hey - A Byrne swipe by Byrne. It's come full circle!
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