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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 11:16am | IP Logged | 1 post reply



Beyond the requisite splash page, the use of a full page image should be used
sparingly and for maiximum impact. This is one of those times!! Fantastic,
JB!!


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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 11:38am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Both the Phoenix story and DoFP hang around to haunt the comics for way too long...

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I grew deeply weary of Chris’ constant dredging up of Phoenix. The most ridiculous example, imho, being his use of her as a villain in the X/TITANS crossover.

One good thing did come out of it, tho. It severely muted complaints when Jean (not Phoenix) was brought back for X-FACTOR. Chris had so diluted her death only a very few fans still clung to it as something important.

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Nathan Greno
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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 11:46am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Great drawing on today’s page! 

Although I have a feeling those Sentinels are far from beaten!! 🙂
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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 11:51am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

More disappointments in store, I guess.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

To elaborate: this Sentinel storyline has been running for 12 issues, with four different waves of Sentinels involved.

Time to draw the curtain!

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Steven Queen
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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

"I grew deeply weary of Chris’ constant dredging up of Phoenix. The most ridiculous example, imho, being his use of her as a villain in the X/TITANS crossover.

One good thing did come out of it, tho. It severely muted complaints when Jean (not Phoenix) was brought back for X-FACTOR. Chris had so diluted her death only a very few fans still clung to it as something important."

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All that you are saying rings very true with me. The Titans crossover was weak. That and subsequent overuse of Phoenix minimized the impact, trivializing her death. That's why I am sticking with ELSEWHEN as the legit continuity. The X-men restored.

As a teenager, my young mind interpreted what I saw happen with the X-Men (and some other favorites) as: "The worse thing that can happen to something you love is for it to become popular."

There's an old saying that I think says it better: "Pioneers first...followed by Profiteers."
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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Or, “Nobody wants to go first, everybody wants to go second.”
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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply



It's awesome that "beauty" is a Bob & Doug reference! Sentinels are a bunch
of hoseheads, and they can take off! Literally!


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John Byrne

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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Well, I grew up around people saying “beauty”, eh? When I first saw Doug and Bob, I said “Holy Cow! I went to school with them!” (No, not literally.)
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I wonder if Gyrich's perspective has changed at all.
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

One would hope so. He's not a stupid character, just kind of a zealot.
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Ted Pugliese
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Posted: 21 April 2020 at 5:05pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Awesome page, John! My favorite part of of the Corona
quarantine has been having more time for the forum and
Elsewhen! Man, I am so ready to retire!
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