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Brian Miller
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Posted: 22 April 2020 at 7:09pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Couldn't parse the words on the shirt (yet!)...but my first thought it was
the man himself (JB).

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World’s Greatest Grandpa
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Steven Queen
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Posted: 22 April 2020 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I am non saying the "space pirate" parents had any great emotional impact---but only that I can still see that bearded image of Scott in the Savage Land with such clarity after 30+ years.

Story line non-withstanding...visually: That's art.
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Steven Queen
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Posted: 22 April 2020 at 7:32pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

@Brain: You win the no prize!
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Steven Queen
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Posted: 22 April 2020 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Oops! My "Brain" meant to type "Brian"
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Joseph Gauthier
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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 12:35am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I get my catharsis after all! Now excuse me while I put my fingers in my ears so no one can tell me that the center panel isn't Cairo, and that the smoldering corpse of Amahl Farouk isn't hidden somewhere in the background.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 5:13am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

It’s vaguely amusing that anyone should ask why this technique wasn’t used against the Sentinels in “Days of Future Past”. My whole story, there, depended on what was basically a quick bit of sleight of hand. The opening presented the mass slaughter of super-folk as a done deal, and, happily, nobody wrote in to asked how it had been accomplished.

With that combination of powers and brains, a much more “realistic” version would have been the Sentinels being defeated—which is what has happened here.

So, yes, no DoFP in ELSEWHEN. Happy endings all ‘round.

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Steven Queen
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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 5:41am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Yeesh! If the Sentinels had been "smart"---first thing is take out Reed Richards with a surprise attack...otherwise he ALWAYS beats you. :)

I am a fan of Happy Endings.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 6:48am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

And no chance of Chris slipping in a caption that undoes it all. That, alone, is justification for this whole exercise.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 6:59am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

The greatest aspect of DoFP, as it was meant to be, is
that the entirety of the slaughter, every death, all the
pain, misery, mourning, suffering, just "poofed" out of
existence. The story, as it was meant to be, is in a way
the ultimate demonstration of telling what could very
well be the darkest, bleakest superhero tale ever and yet
still putting the toys back exactly where you found them.

Oh well!

Thing is, it seems that Mr. Claremont's little tiny
(enormous!) change absolutely captured the spirit of the
coming dominant readership.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 7:50am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Yes, Chris knew his audience. As I have noted many times before, the book really took off after I left.

(Astonishing the number of fans and retailers I’ve met who do not realize this. Who seem to think that X-MEN being their favorite book must have meant it was everbody’s favorite, and not a title constantly flirting with cancellation.)

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 8:03am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

That's a really weird thing for me to keep realising - I
met the new X-Men in UK reprints, which were a few years
behind the USA releases.

So, although I fell in love with them immediately, by
the time I was at an age where I understood comics and
started to get the American comics, your run had ended.

It was issue 153 that I started to buy the American
comics on a monthly basis and then hunted down the
issues between where the UK was and where America was -
issues 136 to 152 - some I really lucked out on when a
chain of local newsagents bought a bulk load of back
issues and sold them on their stands. I managed to get
141 from a newsagent roughly a year after it was
published. 142, I had to get via mail order.

All of this is a long winded way of saying, that by the
time I had looked at the sales figures in the back of an
issue, it was well into Cockrum's return, and I assumed
that they had always been selling that amount. Once I
bought the back issues, I realised how wrong I was
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Steven Queen
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Posted: 23 April 2020 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Count me in the list of ignorant fans. I assumed the sales had peak with the Death of Phoenix and went downhill shortly there-after (along with the quality).

Considering the departure of its iconic artist and co-writer to Marvel's flagship title, it's an assumption I never bothered to cross-check.

Wow. Explains a lot.
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