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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 11:44am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

DeanHere is a long-ago thread about those unused X-Men plans, sparked by Cory Vandernet, who happened to have an old list of JB's X-Men story ideas.

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Sorry, but I’ve been discouraging comparisons to that ancient list - JB

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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 12:16pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

JB: Sorry, but I’ve been discouraging comparisons to that ancient list - JB

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I'm sorry. I understand. Having just re-read some of the old thread again, it's
immediately clear that people find it hard to believe that ancient list carried
very little weight and was likely filled with ideas that weren't necessarily set
plans or even really plans at all.

There's a lesson about history in there somewhere.
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Jim Petersman
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 12:52pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Most comic book artist's fans: "The way the villain broke the planet in half and threw the sun into another galaxy setting it on fire was so cool!"

Us: The bottom of that work boot is absolutely perfect!
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Michael Genitempo
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I get the feeling Jean ain’t all there....so to speak.
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Or, perhaps, not there at all............?
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That reminds me of the start of this poem by William Hughes Mearns :
"Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there!
He wasn't there again today,
Oh how I wish he'd go away!"
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Dean Munday
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Dean Here is a long-ago thread about those unused X-Men plans, sparked by Cory Vandernet, who happened to have an old list of JB's X-Men story ideas.

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Sorry, but I’ve been discouraging comparisons to that ancient list - JB

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Thanks Mark - appreciate the thought.

JB - as I qualified in my original query - no problem whatsoever, I just had to ask.


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James Woodcock
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I think Cyclops always looks his best with a thin visor.

I missed it when it went away

I remember thinking that Paul Smith got it right just as he was about to
leave the series.
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Dean Munday
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Fair enough. It seems the majority of people expressing an opinion do indeed prefer the 'slim' (cheesy pun intended) visor look.

At the risk of becoming a forum pariah, I actually preferred Cockrum's 'chunky' visor and forever-dated-in-the-seventies 'flared' boots (though I was never totally on-board with the Mr. Universe physique). But ultimately, if the characterization and plot are sufficiently engaging, each character's 'look' is secondary. *

* Exceptions being putting Wolverine in a blue bandana and giving him bone claws, and superfluous pouches - anywhere.   


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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 4:29pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply


Wolverine in the last panel is wonderful - another moment in which I am so, so
grateful we are seeing this in pencils.





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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Yes........ even the best inkers tend to go outside or inside the lines, and that can radically alter expressions.
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 11 May 2020 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I love a story like this because I want to make a million guesses, but odds are I won't get it right. 

I'm a big fan of a smaller visor and boots on Scott, but I don't need a big continuity-laden story about 'em. They were bigger for a bit, JB slowly fixed them. I imagine the X-Men go through clothing pretty quickly, and maybe Hank was tinkering with the visor.

Seconding, thirding or fourthing it - Wolverine's expression is remarkable in that last panel. I love how quietly observant he is in this series. No need to monologue about his senses constantly. We see him use them.
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John Byrne

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As I’ve mentioned before, Dave used to sometimes wear big yellow leather buccaneer boots, and I used to envy the ease with which he pulled off the look. But I didn’t think that look was right for brooding, introspective Scott Summers.
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John Byrne

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Two pages today, since the first one is kinda low key, and also ends on bridging dialog.
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