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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 23 June 2020 at 3:27pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply


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Wallace S. - I meant that, straight up, Phoenix beat Gladiator. That seems to be the answer to the question of "Who wins?"


I didn't realize there was anyone here who doubted that. We saw a beaten Gladiator when JB posted that sneak peek a while back, and again when the first page of issue #10 was posted here.
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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 23 June 2020 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Maybe I’ve missed this in previous discussions, but has Lilandra been possessed by the Phoenix entity or has a copy been created of Lilandra as a “shell” for the entity to inhabit as with Marvel Girl? It appears to me that she is possessed, but I can see some wiggle room that would not be out of bounds.
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John Byrne

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Maybe I’ve missed this in previous discussions, but has Lilandra been possessed by the Phoenix entity or has a copy been created of Lilandra as a “shell” for the entity to inhabit as with Marvel Girl? It appears to me that she is possessed, but I can see some wiggle room that would not be out of bounds.

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Unlike Jean, whose duplication happened off panel, Lilandra was possessed in front of witnesses. Twice.

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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 24 June 2020 at 4:00am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Thanks for confirming, John.
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 24 June 2020 at 5:30am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Hmmm... I’m not sure if I’m reading today’s final panel the right way...
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John Byrne

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Hmmm... I’m not sure if I’m reading today’s final panel the right way...

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How are you reading it, Wallace?

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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 24 June 2020 at 6:01am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I read it as the Phoenix entity suddenly abandoning Lilandra's form to enter Jean's.
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Wallace Sellars
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I should also mention that a small part of me thought it could be Jean reacting to the Phoenix's words to her mother by reflexively attacking, but the positioning of her torso and left arm makes that seem less likely.

Edited by Wallace Sellars on 24 June 2020 at 6:09am
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Tom Perkowitz
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Posted: 24 June 2020 at 6:21am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Hmmm.... an exploding head (partially obscured by a hand)... a naked alien woman (most of the good bits strategically covered)... I wonder if this could have been published back in the day with the comics code.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 June 2020 at 6:32am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Sure.

Also, remember Lilandra isn’t a conventional human flesh tone.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 June 2020 at 6:33am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I read it as the Phoenix entity suddenly abandoning Lilandra's form to enter Jean's.

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Yup.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 24 June 2020 at 6:45am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I'm so glad it's not Friday! The suspense...!
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