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Ron Grant
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Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we
there yet? Are we there yet?
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Exactly Eric this is the longest week
Feel like a kid counting the days till
Christmas.
Thanks JB for making us feel like kids again!
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Stephen Ben Pereira
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| Posted: 02 September 2020 at 7:51pm | IP Logged | 2
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Can we pull over ? I got to go for a wee :(
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Michael Genitempo
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Can we pull over ? I got to go for a wee :(
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I do believe we have "pulled over", for what will be about a week, so have at it :-)
BTW, Havok is now called "the exploding man" ;-) Actually, I've always felt he had enormous potential, but most writers just don't know what to do with him or Polaris...
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 03 September 2020 at 7:10am | IP Logged | 4
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JB, what are the warning signs to you that a subplot isn't working? Are there red flags that you run into as writer or artist?••• I normally let the stories “write themselves,” so when they stop doing that, when I find myself consciously guiding the action or even wondering where it’s going, I take that as a strong sign a subplot has stalled on me. (“Letting the stories write themselves” is writer code for being so deep in the groove it all seems effortless.)
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Jason Ladwig
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Actually, I've always felt he had enormous potential, but most writers just don't know what to do with him or Polaris...
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Agree Mike. JB, any insider information as to why Havok and Polaris never really took off after their introduction?
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Andrew Bitner
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| Posted: 03 September 2020 at 9:30am | IP Logged | 6
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JB: I normally let the stories “write themselves,” so when they stop doing that, when I find myself consciously guiding the action or even wondering where it’s going, I take that as a strong sign a subplot has stalled on me.(“Letting the stories write themselves” is writer code for being so deep in the groove it all seems effortless.) *** Cool to know- thanks! Has there been a situation in the past where getting beyond this proved especially difficult?
Edited by Andrew Bitner on 03 September 2020 at 9:32am
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 03 September 2020 at 9:42am | IP Logged | 7
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Has there been a situation in the past where getting beyond this proved especially difficult?•• Having to "kill the baby" is ALWAYS difficult!!!
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Andrew Bitner
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This is why it's hard to write serialized fiction, be it comic books, soap operas, TV series, or what have you. There are just going to be moments where weeks, months or more of hard work are not paying off. It's a mark of experience and skill when writers are able to handle that without showing a wrenching change on the page.FWIW, I can't recall reading a single issue of a book by JB where I wondered what the heck happened to so-and-so or why such-and-such plot thread hadn't paid off. It's all felt seamless to me.
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John Byrne
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Here's a little "methadone" to get you thru to Monday.People beseeching me for covers got me pondering what I might be able to do with cobbled together bits of previous commission pieces… 
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Phil Southern
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Is there a copy of the logo that's a vector graphic, or a previously shared copy that I missed? Thanks!
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Mark McKay
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| Posted: 03 September 2020 at 10:38am | IP Logged | 11
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Love that!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 03 September 2020 at 10:41am | IP Logged | 12
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The logo is a quick and dirty jpeg I posted in the original ELSEWHEN thread.
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