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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 9:01am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I do particularly like that beat with Xavier trailing off.
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Jason Ladwig
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 10:05am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I don’t think there are a lot of current readers—I honestly have a hard time calling them “fans”—who would be interested in this kind of storytelling. They’ve had a few decades now of being trained to accept “decompression” (ie lazy writing) and feel they are being somehow intellectually short changed if every scene isn’t dragged out to the maximum.
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That nails it on the head. I still try to read because I love the medium and the hobby. But I keep dropping titles and it feels like saying goodbye to a good friend.Thanks for Elsewhen!

Edited by Jason Ladwig on 29 June 2021 at 10:07am
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Jamez Smith
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 10:51am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

This commentary  feels validating. I've attempted being a "current reader" of what's going on with the X-Men ... but find it so frustratingly boring.

As far as I'm concerned, Elsewhen is current and canon.
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 11:20am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

JB: Warren trusts Scott. After years working together, he’s come to think of him as the go-to guy when a rabbit needs to be pulled out of a hat!

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Guess I misread how Warren was talking- it was early, no coffee... you know how it is. 
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Joe Smith
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 11:20am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

This guy always keeps me guessing! So great.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 12:59pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I saw a comment elsewhere saying ELSEWHEN “needs an editor”. One of those phrases some fans use when trying to sound “in the know”. But I got to wondering what the poster meant. Is an editor needed this keep the book from jumping around as much as it does*—or is an editor needed to get me to “decompress” all my scenes?

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*Part of its charm, I think!!

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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 1:30pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Other than the possibility of maybe catching a typo an editor would be superfluous here. In comics they are as much a scheduler and assigner as an editor.
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Joe Smith
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I love how it isn’t waiting for the herd to catch up on this action…..if you
haven’t been reading or paying attention…you’re going to be left in the
dust. IMO comics for readers of all ages, utilizing the shorthand of the
past 50 years of sequential storytelling.
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Byron Graham
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 1:41pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Spaceship, impending doom, asking Scottie for a miracle. There's something very familiar about this.
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John Northey
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 2:25pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

With a lesser writer I'd be quite worried about where this is going, but with Mr. Byrne I feel safe that it will be an entertaining ride for us, maybe too entertaining for Warren though.  I'm reading this like it is a movie right now - this scene would be great in the theater although if I was in that spaceship I'd probably tell Bobby to turn off the ice - never did get why he stays in ice form all the time beyond being a nice visual (hrm, answered my own question there).
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Jonathan Kaye
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Today's page has me turning back to the image of alt-M’s hand in the last panel of page 8 —  and wondering what we would have seen if our point of view hadn’t immediately shifted away.  
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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 29 June 2021 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I think that you do not need an editor, Mr. Byrne. But I do not know the exact role an editor serves... or which of several roles an editor plays. You CERTAINLY do not need someone to stand around and claim credit for your work!

I've never been in the biz (as so many readers have not) so I'm not sure what an editor would/could do. So you are responsible for your own work, and no one needs to interfere from MY point of view.

As for Scott and Warren... it's Warren's style. These two men are closer than brothers, and Cyclops has indeed pulled it out so many times. That's encouragement from a man who's faced death (and worse) with him, and who's entitled to ask. (Had it been Wolverine or Colossus, it would have been kinda desperation... although it seems kinda desperate ANYHOW! :)
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