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Joe Smith
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 6:06am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Freakin’ Pietro…such a toolbag. Seeya Monday, JB. Thanks.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 6:06am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

(I was thrown for just a second to see how much bigger Gladiator is than Iceman. Kalark is a big guy!)

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Plus I don't think of Bobby as tall. He's not, strictly speaking, a kid any more, but I still think he'd have to stand on tiptoe to hit six feet.

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Jean-Michel Walker
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 6:18am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

   ... JB: There's a lot of emotional baggage attached to these characters. In some ways ELSEWHEN is as much an exorcism as an exercise.

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Yes, there is.
Yes, it is.

And, thank you.
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Jason Ladwig
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 6:38am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Great page. FANTASTIC issue! Can't wait for the next.
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 7:25am | IP Logged | 5 post reply


 QUOTE:
Plus I don't think of Bobby as tall. He's not, strictly speaking, a kid any more, but I still think he'd have to stand on tiptoe to hit six feet.


Agreed! Even with with Kitty around, I sometimes think of Bobby as the "baby" of the group. And in my head, he, Spider-Man and the Human Torch are perpetual teens.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 7:37am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

According to what Stan wrote at the time, Bobby, Peter and Johnny were roughly the same age, 16, when they made their public debuts, about a year apart.

Typically, this was forgotten, and little effort was made to keep them teenagers—especially once the fans-turned-pro started running the show. “Hey, I was twelve when I started reading Marvel comics, and I’m 25 now…..”

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 7:42am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Perpetual teens -- yes, for sure.

It's boring to say this, yet again, but if Bart Simpson is always 10 years old...!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 7:54am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

But Bart Simpson is a CARTOON!

You know, as distinct from the stark realism of Spider-Man or the FF…

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Jeffrey Rice
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 11:46am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

It's Cowabunga Time!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Of the many frustrations that come with my career, the minibrains who insist the characters should age in real time (or at all) crowd the top of the list.

Now, I’m fully aware Stan and Jack played the Marvel universe in real time, at first, but as years rolled by and the company showed no sign of going away, they started applying the brakes.

Unfortunately, the damage had been done.

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Steven Queen
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I imagine it seems so clever to the amateur writer to age the characters...low-hanging fruit that ends up being rotten.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 23 July 2021 at 5:16pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Still interested to see where this story goes, but that was one abrupt resolution. You did warn us, to be fair. As a reader I have to say I do find Professor X problematic in that he can do precisely what he just did every time.

The art is great. Amazing to think we've got so far into this, but I still feel like I'm waiting to get a big bite into the X-Men themselves. Looking back to that first issue, I really enjoyed the characterisation you gave us of Sprite, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Cyclops et al. One of the natural corollaries of such a large cast of characters (fun as the guest appearances have been) is that there is less time for each character.  
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