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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 5:23am | IP Logged | 1
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I think that it goes without saying that if you have someone as old as Wolverine and put him in WW II, you are going to have him meet certain individuals. It's just the way it is and any previous iterations of such a meeting do not need to have been known for the idea to have formed in one's head.
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 5:47am | IP Logged | 2
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Especially if one develops a reputation for being a killing machine or paragon of a soldier. Guys like that end up being sent where the action is most intense.
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:07am | IP Logged | 3
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"I DID NOT SEE THAT COMING
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Neither did 'Fritz'!
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There's a joke sitting there for the taking!
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Scott Wagahoff Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:07am | IP Logged | 4
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I don't want to thread drift, so if someone can answer briefly - I had stopped reading X-Men by the time Claremont/Lee did a story with Cap & Logan in the war....but how is Natasha there?
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Steve Gumm Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:22am | IP Logged | 5
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Someone wake up John, I have to see today's page!
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:23am | IP Logged | 6
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but how is Natasha there? -------------- I don't think it was actually explained and it came completely out of the blue.
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Steve Gumm Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:38am | IP Logged | 7
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Whew thanks JB. Have to say you are spinning a great tale!
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:39am | IP Logged | 8
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In a 1972 issue of DAREDEVIL, it was explained that Black Widow was a child during WWII, which at that point still would have been possible. Not so for a book published 20 years later, though. There was even a passing reference in the X-Men issue that that shouldn't be possible, but in Claremontian fashion, it was left at that.
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Scott Wagahoff Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:39am | IP Logged | 9
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but how is Natasha there? -------------- I don't think it was actually explained and it came completely out of the blue.
-------------- How Claremontian.
Thanks for the response!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:42am | IP Logged | 10
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but how is Natasha there?-------------- I don't think it was actually explained and it came completely out of the blue. •• If we're talking about the Black Widow, she was established from the beginning as having a connection to WW2, tho as an orphaned child. Don't know how Chris handled it. (When I was working on THE CHAMPIONS I liked the idea that Natasha was in her fifties and still HOT. Of course, the passage of time made that less and less tenable. It's usually for the best NOT to tie characters to specific time periods, unless, like Captain America, they have an explanation of their continued youth and vigor.)
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:49am | IP Logged | 11
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They ultimately went the Nick Fury route with Black Widow, giving her a variation of the Infinity Formula. I can't say that I have a problem with that, since her origins are so tied with the Cold War.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 22 October 2021 at 6:51am | IP Logged | 12
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Gonna blow the thread drift alert whistle at this point!
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