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James Woodcock
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I prefer poorly written :-)
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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Star Brand's origin sounds like the silver age Green Lantern. I think Hal Jordan was a bit of a 'bad boyfriend' too.

Comics are a visual medium. Without sound, without actors, without huge overhead costs... so long as you have a strong visual idea it's going to be your ideal medium. When you have frustrated movie writers or producers, wannabe serious mature book authors and editors... I think it suffers. Jim Shooter in my opinion was great at writing The Legion Of Super-Heroes and I wish he would've been allowed to finish that last run on it. Originally he used to draw his scripts, which put an emphasis on the visual perhaps... I saw another story he did that way and was credited as penciller even, and that was better than most other stuff I've read outside the Legion.

Rejected covers (and corrections ordered) are a window into what an editor thought wouldn't sell. It seems a bit wasteful that covers went beyond the basic sketch stage... bad planning? Lack of time suddenly or a Hannigan or Cockrum to do basic sketches to be approved those times?
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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 7:23pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply



There is a whole thread devoted to Star Brand active now - I'm not sure why
you are hijacking this one for the subject.




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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Does anyone know any further information?

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Shooter’s model for that cover was Steranko’s iconic shot of Nick Fury in space. He complained when the look of that cover could not be duplicated with a guy in a leisure suit.

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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 7:33pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Here's a rejected Paul Smith cover for X-MEN #173, and the one that replaced it.  The first one is quite lovely, but I guess the printed one is more exciting.


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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I wonder if we might change the title of this thread from “rejected” to “unused”?
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 9:57pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Smith is definitely one of the artists whose work I could just sit and look at
all day long.

Whatever happened to him?
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Trevor Smith
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 10:31pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

You got me curious Brian, so I went looking and found his
website. There's some pretty nice recent commissions
there. As a side note, on his commission page, in big red
font, are the words "WARNING! NOT SUITABLE FOR COLOR!".
Sounds familiar!
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 11:14pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I didn’t even know he had a website.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 01 December 2023 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I was reading about Smitty the other day. Didn't realise his run on UXM was so short -- basically just a year.

Really like the art in both those covers. I think the published one is bolder, more dynamic... Better, basically. But I love how gracefully he depicted Rogue in the unused one.


Edited by Peter Martin on 01 December 2023 at 11:53pm
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 02 December 2023 at 9:23am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I wonder if we might change the title of this thread from “rejected” to “unused”?
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Maybe...but I don't know how!  Anyway, I'm almost out of examples and very few other people are posting any, so the thread will wind down soon anyhow!
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 02 December 2023 at 9:28am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Here's the last one I have saved!  (Of course, every time I buy an Epic Collection, I find one or two more!)  Here's two amazing pieces by Barry Windsor-Smith for X-MEN #205!



I can't say I like one over the other, but I sure can't believe the first one wasn't used somewhere!
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