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Matt Reed
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 1:21am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Trump will either die from age and absurd McDonald’s consumption or he will somehow skirt what laws exist like he has for 50 years and counting.  Perhaps others in his orbit will be held to account, but I highly doubt it considering what happened after his last stint as President.  While I appreciate those comments from Gandhi, I don’t see how they’re applicable today considering the suffering, hardship and abuse so many are going through seemingly with little to no repercussions for the perpetrators.  It’s cold comfort to the person sitting in Venezuela to say “they always fall” when the present is so dire.  
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 1:53am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I think YMMV. I find some comfort from the thought that some kind of reckoning will catch up with a wrongdoer, even if it is the reckoning of history after their death. History will not remember Trump kindly. No, that doesn't ease people's hardship now, but I think it will count for something if his name is dirt through the ages.
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Matt Reed
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 3:56am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I get it.  Cosmic comeuppance.  My take is that he’s dead.  Won’t matter to him.  He’ll never face repercussions.  He’ll have lived his entire life as a shit stain, a mediocre nobody except in his ability to shape a narrative and garner a following.  Powerful, that, as it’s kept him largely one step ahead of the law for more than five decades.  He’s a high stakes grifter who has enough money to buy power and influence. Nothing more.  That said?  What does he care about legacy.  He doesn’t.  That would take foresight he simply does not possess. It’s always been about the here and now, the next grift, the next “art of the deal”.  

I feel that “reckoning” in death is like Christians talking about hell.  If you’re a believer, there’s the school of thought that we all pay for what we’ve done in the afterlife. I’m not, so I find it cold comfort that Trump will pay for his extreme misdeeds long after he’s gone.  He deserves to be called out and punished in the here and now, not some mentions in textbooks, essays and 21st Century overviews.  If not, what does it matter to someone who has reaped so much at the expense of so many if it’s just history that marks him as a bad actor, a troll and a charlatan after he’s dead?
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 6:49am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Good points all.
The flip side worry that I have, to my initial ‘there shall be a reckoning’ is
that his family will continue his legacy in the same vein.

I do wonder how much more of this America can take before it breaks.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

They may carry his legacy on in business, but not politics. He’s a cult of
personality that none of them have the ability to carry forward. Jr’s already
saying he’s going to run. JD Vance may have something to say about that
and none of Trump’s family have the charisma to hold MAGA together after
he’s gone. Trump didn’t win this last election solely with MAGA support and
those that aren’t won’t vote for Jr out some sort of brand/family loyalty.
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 8:10pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Brian, that's my take on the matter, as well.
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 9:55pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Peter said history won't remember Trump kindly, and he's correct. He may even be remembered as the worst President in U.S. history. 

But you know who else won't be remembered kindly? All the sycophants, enablers and brownnosers who kiss up to him and let him get away with what he does.

Matt may be right about McDonalds taking him out, but I personally hope its not for a while. Trump has never ever had to answer for any of the evil things he has done, and likely still won't go to prison despite all the convictions once he is out of office, so I'd rather he survive long enough for people to realize he has no power and turn on him. 

Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm to be President, yet this ecomaniacal, narcissistic, lying example for walking excrement is making money left and right with deals he is making and that stupid cryptocurrency, and no one is batting an eye.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 24 May 2025 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I’d prefer he drop dead right now.
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