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Fred J Chamberlain
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Posted: 25 June 2025 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Sadly Mark, this doesn’t fall on Trump’s shoulders, but on the shoulders of
every single person who voted for him, knowing and supporting what he is.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 25 June 2025 at 10:28pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Fred: Sadly Mark, this doesn’t fall on Trump’s shoulders, but on the shoulders of
every single person who voted for him, knowing and supporting what he is.

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Suit yourself, of course, but I can see an argument for blaming a man for what he does.

I know what you mean. But do you think the true-believers who voted for Trump can really be seen as "knowing what he is"?

My Trump-loving relatives cannot seem to cognitively acknowledge the simplest of his failings. His charisma has them totally enthralled. They slide past his apparent failings to his next declaration of victory. To them, he is an always-winner, persecuted by deranged haters.

Sadly, their religion and prejudice makes Trump their hero --while also making "separation of church and state" and "rule of law" into their enemy.

Sure, I blame them-- not for knowing what he is, but for not knowing what America is.
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ron bailey
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Posted: 25 June 2025 at 10:54pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Ah, Trumf drops the f-bomb expressing his ire over independent nations not kow towing to him.
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The goal is to do anything to distract from legitimate debate over who's actually doing.
I was actually heartened that most of the media didn't take the bait, finally.
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David Miller
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Posted: 26 June 2025 at 12:03am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

 ron bailey wrote:
anything to distract


Another distraction. Will there ever be a "real" issue?

Edited by David Miller on 26 June 2025 at 12:16am
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 26 June 2025 at 2:56am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Real issue: the effed up Iran bombing/false cease fire
The distraction: bad language
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David Miller
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Posted: 26 June 2025 at 4:11am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

As degenerate as the American polity has become, I'm confident they can pay attention to both.
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David Miller
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Posted: 26 June 2025 at 4:24am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Iran has been the United States' own private Great Satan longer than most voters have been alive. Yet another failed and illegal operation isn't going to bring down anyone, let alone Trump.
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Joseph Vecchio
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Posted: 26 June 2025 at 7:51am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

My co-worker was laughing about the "Bomb Bomb Iran" song and was shocked that we were singing that almost fifty years ago...
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 27 June 2025 at 3:57pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

LINK

SCOTUS sez: End Birthright Citizenship, weaken Federal Courts. Just your daily reminder that Trump wouldn't be able to do any of the things he's doing to dismantle the American Experiment without the eager assistance of like-minded individuals.
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