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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 October 2024 at 2:13pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply
I was not aware of an anti-fascist stance in any of those films. The strokes seemed much more broad, good guys vs bad.
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 24 October 2024 at 2:27pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
Tolkien may be one of those cases where we apply the 'death of the author' approach, though things like the scouring of the Shire seem pretty clear to me on the point (and others). But George Lucas* and J.K. Rowling have been pretty vocal about their themes about fascism. The third Fantastic Beasts movie has as its central plot a convicted felon and leader of a supremacist movement running for Supreme Leader - which he attempts to secure through corrupt means.

Edited to add: Tolkien has been claimed by pro-and-anti fascist camps pretty much since Fellowship was released.

*In the case of Lucas, that stuff wasn't terribly present in the original trilogy, but was front and center in the prequels.


Edited by Dave Kopperman on 24 October 2024 at 2:29pm
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 24 October 2024 at 2:33pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
I mean, this scene from Attack of the Clones couldn't be more direct if Lucas placed a flashing banner on the screen.
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 24 October 2024 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
I wonder what it would be like if the SCOTUS judges were elected.

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Given the current political climate, probably comparable to the usual campaigns for Congress... I'd prefer to have harsher penalties.... seems these Justices are above the law. It's ridiculous that Congress has downplayed it for so long.

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Casey Sager
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Posted: 24 October 2024 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply
I can't believe SCOTUS members are allowed to accept such extravagant gifts, as if the billionaires giving them don't expect anything in return, they just do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

This, and dark money and untethered corporate bribes in the form of donations to super pacs have litterally ruined US politics...not that they were in great shape before.
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 24 October 2024 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply
I said to a friend that while there was lots of stuff about the 20th century that sucked, we also made an insane amount of social progress.  And it feels like we're just giving all that away.
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 24 October 2024 at 11:09pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply
To quote Paula Abdul, "We take two steps forward. We take two steps back."
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