Agreed.  The media keeps repeating the statistic that 70% of Americans didn't want another Trump v. Biden matchup, yet somehow that's exactly what we (collectively) chose for our country, and it seemed inevitable.  The biggest loser here wasn't Trump or Biden, it was us.

Props to CNN for the way they ran the debate, but I've never seen a more dour looking panel of moderators.

No fucking way will I vote for 45.

The guy who shouldn't be President vs. the guy who CANNOT be President again.

The last 4 years have gone by rather quickly seems like Biden just got elected. The best thought I have is how neither of these guys will be on the ballot 4 years from now!

Biden could withdraw at the convention for the same reason he says he ran in 2020: to stop Trump. He could tout being proud of his term as President but that it was time for a new generation of leadership, upon which EVERYONE agrees, and whomever picks up the baton swears by his administration's achievements. The Republicans wind up looking like they are chained to a compromised candidate selfishly consumed with the past and incapable of listening to what the country wants, while the Democrats look more responsive and looking forward to the future and capturing the imagination of the newly possible.

But that would take courage to make such a gamble, and I don't know if the Democrats have it in them.

*I can unerstand the potential retorts to this, but if I actually had a choice, I might have voted for Christie. Yes, he was once a Trump toadie, and I won't go as far as to say that he'd be a good president, but he did commit political suicide by admitting those mistakes.

If Biden wins (which is certainly a possibility, albeit one that is difficult to feel optimistic about) then I see no reason why Trump might not run again in 2028.  And given his bizarre (and to me inexplicable) political resiliency I would not be surprised if he got the nomination again under those circumstances.