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ron bailey
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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 3:11pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Holy crap!
He's not immune to prosecution.
That might well alter the deal somewhat.
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I'm not really sure Trump's people have thought this through. Biden is currently still President, so ... :)
 

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 4:30pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Quite
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Trumf is all out of shits to give when it comes to worrying about what people think of him, but Biden clearly wants to be remembered as The Nice One. I can’t imagine him ever unleashing his legitimate Presidential Power on Trumf.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 5:37pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Meanwhile, SCOTUS’ ruling overlooks the fact that Trumf believes EVERYTHING a President does is “official”.
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

So, since Biden is still President,  which makes his every act "official", apparently,  then he doesn't have to leave office, right? I mean, thos immunity thing swings both ways,  doesn't it?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Ah, but remember Matt, according to Trumf toadies, Biden ISN’T President!
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 10:56pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Biden's response should be to toss Trump and the members of SCOTUS who voted in favor of immunity into a black site.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 01 July 2024 at 11:03pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

My initial elation has been somewhat dampened by the BBC seeming to
think asking the VP to not ratify votes could be counted as official.
I’m just hoping that stealing official top secret documents does not count
as official.
I guess we should be pleased that @ least one thought a scenario where a
President orders the military to assassinate their opponent could be
classified as official & would be protected & thus the ruling is bollocks.
Ah well.
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Koroush Ghazi
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Posted: 02 July 2024 at 3:49am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

There goes Superman’s slogan “Truth, Justice and the American Way”; it
now sounds like a mutually exclusive choice.

Hopefully if Trump is elected, he will formally change the USA’s title to The
People’s Democratic Republic of America. Because when the most senior
members of the Judiciary simply vote along party lines on something so
fundamental to justice, you’re only a step away from having a dogma-driven
dictatorship with no real checks and balances.

/Edit: I know it’s trite but I can’t help recalling
this scene from the
brilliant Judgment at Nuremberg




Edited by Koroush Ghazi on 02 July 2024 at 3:59am
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 02 July 2024 at 5:20am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

MAKE THE CALL, JOE!
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 02 July 2024 at 5:33am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Am I misunderstanding the ruling? I think it explains clearly that Presidential conversations with Department of Justice leadership are protected and official. So, if POTUS were caught plotting a coup with his Attorney General, these actions and conversations would be protected by immunity.

If so, I think that sets the countdown to the end of our democracy. SCOTUS has written out a roadmap for someone like Trump to take over all of government.

Edited by Mark Haslett on 02 July 2024 at 5:34am
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James Johnson
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Posted: 02 July 2024 at 7:50am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Folks in the U.S., please enjoy your summer. 

Come mid fall, we're probably going to get fucked.......
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