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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 19 September 2024 at 1:19pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I was thinking about why the primary process exists as it does, beyond the often-suggested pressure from the media cycle.  I'm wondering if it also allows for a greater grass roots energy from the party members at the state, county, and district level?  That energy is a real key factor in getting out the vote and can make a major difference on Election Day, as long as the Electoral College is still a thing.
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Casey Sager
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Posted: 19 September 2024 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

As messed up as US elections are, I would still prefer voting for a candidate in a primary than voting for a party and then if the party wins they appoint the person to be in charge.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 September 2024 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Except in unusual circumstances, the head of the party would already be in place, so you’d know who would be the next president/prime minister if that party won.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 September 2024 at 7:15pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Trump now wants the government to shut down. Pundits say that would “bounce back” and damage the GOP.

They really don’t understand what country we’re in.

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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 19 September 2024 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Apparently that's an historic pattern. Since the GOP brand is 'smaller government' and since the big shutdown in the 90's, whenever a shutdown happens - as it did during the Trump presidency, when the Democrats held the House (I think?), Trump still took the polling hit. 
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 19 September 2024 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply


 QUOTE:
January 23, 2016: With less than two weeks to go until the Iowa caucus, Donald Trump remains characteristically confident about his chances. In fact, the Republican front-runner is so confident, he says his supporters would stay loyal even if he happened to commit a capital offense. "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

Like, yeah. It certainly f#cking well is. Was eight years ago. Still is today.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 19 September 2024 at 10:10pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

“The Cult of Trump” is a book written by Steven Hassan, a psychologist
and former “Mooney” who very seriously believes that the best way to
understand Trump’s base is through the lens of how cults work.

I’ve heard him speak many times about it since Trump’s first election and
his case has only become more convincing over time.
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