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“Don’t blame me, I wasn’t helping Doctor Doom, I was just making sure as
few people as possible supported Reed Richards cuz that dude is too
progressive!”
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Uh...for this to be a proper analogy Reed would have had to have been not progressive at all, but rather have adopted most of Doom's worst policies to try to appeal to his followers. Otherwise, yeah...I guess.
I don't know if this is what you guys have to keep telling yourselves to justify voting for farther and farther right wing candidates because they're still not as bad as Trump or what. If it is, okay I guess. But allow me to suggest that if we actually want an alternative other than "Trump or the Dick Cheney Candidate" that the Trump opposition party may have to disastrously lose in order to reconsider and reform itself as an actual left party.
Anyone who thinks Kamala lost because she was "too progressive" is frankly an idiot and knows nothing about politics. Her platform (such as it was), in any other country than the US, would be far right. For her to be any less progressive she'd have to be Donald Trump.
Also.....
Trump won the popular vote I googled it ------------------------ You should've kept reading. The popular vote doesn't decide the presidency in the United States.
To be super-specific: I and my fellow organizers in my state managed to get our third-party candidate on the ballot here and net that ticket about 2,200 votes. Harris lost this state by 442,000 votes. Had we organized all of our efforts around getting those folks to vote for Harris and been 100% effective, no one would have noticed. Nothing I did helped Trump get elected. Nothing I did hurt the Harris campaign, really. If you don't understand that, do some more research and understand how elections work.
Why did I do it? Partly because I won't expend my political activity, which doesn't begin and end at casting a vote every few years, in the support of evil, even lesser ones. The Biden election sent the Democratic Party the message that the way to win was to continue to move to the right. It was a disaster in terms of the long term political health of this country and the needs of poor and working people. So, secondly, we've now created the beginnings of a network of people in this and other states, which is now being solidified post election, which can form a point of growth and lobbying with a demonstrated pool of support to work to push the government and the Democratic party back in the opposite direction.
There are very practical goals, for example, getting Medicare for All back on the table for discussion say, 8 years from now. Which is a good practical example. It went from being the subject of intense discussion in Congress and the Presidential race in 2020 to being completely off the table for probably 12 years due to the Democrat's strategy of running to the right. How many Americans will have died, suffered adverse health consequences, or gone bankrupt from medical bills in those 12 years before we get back to where we started, let alone actually getting it passed?
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