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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 09 August 2024 at 9:01pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

John,
Was there ever a project under consideration, even briefly, that would have
somehow brought you and Neal Adams to work on something together?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 August 2024 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Nope. Darn it.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 09 August 2024 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Sorry to hear it.
I was always glad to see it when he said kind things about your work.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 14 August 2024 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Sad thing is, altho I started as a poor clone of Neal, I eventually found my own artistic “voice”—which Neal’s inks would have obliterated.

Not intentionally, of course. It was just that his own style was so powerful it would have overwhelmed my own feeble efforts. (Which is not to say I wouldn’t have loved to see him ink a few pages of ELSEWHEN!)

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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 14 August 2024 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

JB - I can see how conflicted you are!  Given your love for Neal Adams, did you ever make an attempt to get a job, or at least rent a desk at Continuity?

While the number one rule of inking is to stay faithful to the pencils, I can think of many cases where inkers “overwhelmed” the pencils, and made them better.  Eg., I loved Steve Bissette and John Totleben on Swamp Thing; once Totleben started pencilling and inking, it was clear he was the real talent of the art team.  Klaus Janson can complement a good penciller like Frank Miller or Gil Kane, or he can totally elevate a pedestrian penciller like Sal Buscema.  And there was that one issue of X-Men where Tom Palmer went all out to make Don Heck’s pencils look like Adams (and succeeded!).
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 14 August 2024 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I also treasure your writing with other artists -- a story written by John Byrne and drawn by Neal Adams could have been an amazing match.
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Trevor Smith
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Posted: 15 August 2024 at 12:52am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I'm no art expert, but I know what I
like, and "pedestrian" is not an adjective
that I would apply to Sal Buscema's work!
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 15 August 2024 at 1:02am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

(Which is not to say I wouldn’t have loved to see him ink a few pages of
ELSEWHEN!)
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Oh my!
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Daniel Gillotte
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Posted: 15 August 2024 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Two of my faves- Mr. Byrne and Bill Sienkewicz both came out of Neal Adams influence and shadow to make their own (very different) awesome contributions to comics and art!
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Robert Bradley
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Posted: 15 August 2024 at 4:03pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I agree Trevor, Sal Buscema was one of comic's best storytellers.  I would hardly describe him as "pedestrian."

Buscema's 1970's work varied based on who his inker was (he was doing a lot of work and probably did looser pencils at the time), but he was one of the best when it came to telling the story through pictures.

The comics business was a lot different in the 1960s and 70s.  Work had to be done on time and dependable artists were worth their weight in gold to the publishers.  Guys like Kirby, Heck, Tuska, Mooney and Sal Buscema were work horses, not plow horses.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 15 August 2024 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Sal Buscema, pedestrian? How very much dare you, sir?!?
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Mark McKay
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Posted: 15 August 2024 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I wonder what the other way around would also look like, with JB inking Neil Adams.

Also, is the number one job of an inker to be faithful to the pencils, or to ensure that the story is being told is clearly as possible, to be printed?

And I agree, Sal Buscema is a treasure. Following Walt Simon on Thor was no mean feet, and he delivered!
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